Both the North German Union Conference and the South German Union Conference have recently voted to ordain female pastors. [1] [2] This has resulted in women’s ordination becoming a standard practice throughout Germany. These rogue, non-compliant German entities have now sent delegates to the business meetings of the 61st General Conference Session with full rights, privileges, and voice to lecture the rest of the church on our fundamental beliefs, leadership, and church principles and policy.
Why do the leaders and organizers of the 61st General Conference Session allow these German delegates to defy the authority of God’s word, church history, and the authority of the General Conference Session, a global assembly of church representatives, that voted “no” to ordaining women into the gospel ministry on three separate occasions?
These German delegates don’t care about the world sessions. They are not here to support the process. They are here to subvert, to undermine, and to advocate on behalf of women’s ordination. They are here to spread their rebellion onto the world field. They represent a culture that is out of harmony with God’s will and that reflects the post-modern, post-Christian culture that has been corrupted by humanism and feminism. They want the rest of the church to adopt a feminist, sexless, genderless ministry where there are no distinctions between men and women.
Again, why does the General Conference, who is in charge of organizing the 61st General Conference Session, cave in to these liberal elements and allow these rebellious German unions to send their delegates to express disdain, contempt and sow their seeds of rebellion on this important world forum? Why are they given a platform and a voice? They lack discipline and character and should resign, but instead they choose to co-opt the movement for the furtherance of their own personal views, ambitions, and purposes.
If this were the military, they would have been court-martialed and booted out a long time ago. We are in the Lord’s army and the actions of these insubordinate unions are no less dangerous and unbecoming of the office they hold.
These German delegates and the unions they represent wish to alter our values, history, and teachings. Instead of giving them a voice and a platform at the world session, they should be challenged to repent and abandon their ways. And if they don’t correct themselves, then they should not be invited to participate.
If the organizers of the General Conference Session fail to act on this issue and continue to accept delegates from unions that openly betray the voted actions of the world sessions, they will send the wrong message that there are no consequences for insubordination, noncompliance, and rebellion. Why go to all the trouble and expense of holding a General Conference Session if their decisions aren’t binding? When there is no compliance and everyone is free to do whatever they want, chaos and anarchy ensue. We can no longer turn a blind eye to those who openly and unapologetically undermine the faith.
We are the Remnant Church and not a culturally Relevant Church. What are we supposed to be a “remnant” of? Apostate Protestantism? Feminism? Romanism? We are the remnant of the seed of the woman. This means that we are supposed to be the last remaining people who comprise the original church that was founded by Jesus Christ and the apostles, and feminism and women’s ordination were never part of apostolic Christianity.
Sources
[1] https://atoday.org/north-german-union-conference-to-ordain-women-and-men/
[2] https://atoday.org/southern-german-union-approves-womens-ordination/
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God is not their fear. They fear Him not.
This is the exact blindness Jesus addressed in the 3rd Chapter of the Revelation . They need the heavenly Eye salve to see their errors. But first they MUST see their Need for The Gold Tried in the fire instead of trusting to themselves and their “increased” goods. Before it is too late to do so…
Some are not willing to do self-denying work. They show real impatience when urged to take some responsibility. “What need is there,” say they, of an increase of knowledge and experience? This explains it all. They feel that they are “rich, and increased with goods, and have need of nothing,” while heaven pronounces them poor, miserable, blind, and naked. To these the True Witness says: “I counsel thee to buy of Me gold tried in the fire, that thou mayest be rich; and white raiment, that thou mayest be clothed, and that the shame of thy nakedness do not appear; and anoint thine eyes with eyesalve, that thou mayest see.” Your very self-complacency shows you to be in need of everything. You are spiritually sick and need Jesus as your physician. 5T 265.2
The German conference isn’t the only one allowing women’s ordination, I live in Australia and our SPC conference’s are also allowing it. I think there’s a few conference’s around the world that are in rebellion
Yes, and that’s just a start — a few at first, and then it spreads.
Seems Canada is participating as well in women’s ordination. I believe the NAD is participating….as well lgtq movement from Dan Jackson Era.
Who is Artur Stele? What is his background? He seems to have been very demeaning to the delegates with his comments. Someone came to the mic to remind him that the delegates were there for a reason.
As long as they don’t mentioned the health message or the Three Angel’s Messages or other end-time events, they’re good to go.
Women’s ordination sits well with them, because they believe in a trinity who swap roles & pretend to be what they are not, so anything goes with women taking over the role that God ordained for men.
I meant “don’t mention” and “Three ANGELS’ Messages”. Sorry for not proofreading.
the organizers of the General Conference Session fail to act on this issue and continue to accept delegates from unions that openly betray the voted actions of the world sessions
Question : The delegates in India have no clue about these voted elements simply because Ted Wilson dictates them.
They will send the wrong message that there are no consequences for insubordination, noncompliance, and rebellion.
Speaking truth is rebellion? Who said so? First of you dont hear the cry, then label it insubordination???
Why go to all the trouble and expense of holding a General Conference Session if their decisions aren’t binding?
Are we forced to bind the decisions of GC with 50% vote in agreement? What should the ithe 50% do, shut up and walk away? Yes it’s waste of time and money to organise such event for dissent voices to toe the line of GC…..
When there is no compliance and everyone is free to do whatever they want, chaos and anarchy ensue. We can no longer turn a blind eye to those who openly and unapologetically undermine the faith.
Speaking truth, questioning policy paralysis became undermining of faith, how? You want us to toe the lone of Ted who controls GC anyway. Incumbent officers placed on the chair gifted by Ted is evidence of chaos
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I love these Germans! Go Germany! No more putting women down! God loves us all equally! Thank you!
Dear Julie,
Are you a new believer? Where did you get this horrific idea that Christians believe that God does not love men and women equally?
Did God love Aaron and his descendents more than any other Israelite? No, but he did reserve the priesthood to them? Did God love the 12 disciples more than any other men? No but He did choose them and not others. Did God love women more than men when He gave women uteruses and the ability to give birth while men have not this ability? No.
God made men and women differently. He created them to carry out different purposes but He loves them both equally. Do not make the mistake Eve did of craving a different role than the one God gave her. She desired to be a god but instead fell below Satan.
Yea Julie should understand that.
Women ordination is not ryt,it’s contrary to the plan of Salvation.
Why were there ordained women pastors in the time of Ellen white?
Why are they taking moneys from those women during 4 years doing the exact same degree then putting another title on their diploma ?
Why are teachers (in any subject, at any level) employed by the church, women, described as ordained ministers as soon as they need to be fired, but women pastors who studied theology are not deemed to be ordained when they are hired?
Then in some places telling them there is no job, while men have burn out with too much churches? It’s not like people are rushing to become pastors.
Why so much sex scandals in the churches because women counsel with men and that simply should not happen.
Why history of child abuse are covered up because there are no women in position to stop the ” I scratch you back you scratch mine” policy?
Why lies ?
Why not accept that if there is a vote at the church level this means that it can be voted, therefore it cannot be a sin to go either way, ordination or not ?
Why impose a world view that would mean closing doors of churches in entire countries were men and women must have the same status to direct the organisation in any capacity as soon as they are employed ?
How can we have ordained elders, and not ordained pastors – women ? This means that is is not a biblical problem. It’s just a matter of who gets paid what and who can get up the ladder.
You are entitle to your point of view.
Those are my questions to the church on that subject. To me THIS IS HYPOCRISY indeed. Missouri is just a continuation of San Antonio.
Lastly why pride themselves about the advancement of the church in China, made primarily by ordained women pastors, were they actually should never recognize them. Hypocrisy at the highest level.
Oh Lord, have mercy on them, since they don’t know what they do…
Oh Lord, have mercy on Brother Martin Altink, since he does not know what he does.
These delegates are there because they are not military but church delegates, representing the diversity of a global church. It is nauseating to read the judgmental tone of those calling themselves “Advent Messengers.”
What a bunch of nonsense ! A belief that the decisions of a few people are the will of God ,delicates or not …It merely shows the extreme apostasy within the church. Throughout the history of the jewish nation there were more apostate leaders than faithful, and sadly so it is with the church today.