Written by Concerned Adventist Professionals
The besieged initiative of forcing people at bayonet point to take a Covid inoculation has taken another heavy blow. On October 25, 2022, the New York Supreme Court rebuked the state government for terminating 1430 employees who refused, on conscience and medical grounds, to get one of the new Covid vaccines. [1]
The New York court stated what is now known by many, of even the most grudging apostles of Big Pharma: the Covid drug therapeutics mis-labeled by western governments as vaccines do not work as promised. The Court ordered the immediate rehiring of dismissed state employees who refused the jab, and ordered full back pay to February 2022.
By now, there is widespread public awareness of the following realities:
- Being “vaccinated” does not prevent an individual from contracting or transmitting Covid-19; [2]
- A top Pfizer executive has disclosed that Pfizer never even studied whether their vaccine prevented transmission; [3]
- The public was lied to by pharmaceutical companies and government officials about the efficacy and safety about the Covid vaccines; [4]
- State officials are now warning against the Covid vaccines; [5]
- Globally renowned scientists, physicians, and medical journals state that the Covid shots harm natural immunity, and also come with a host of dangerous side effects, such as myocarditis, pericarditis, menstrual, pregnancy and birth complications, bell’s palsy, paralysis, seizures, and sudden death; [6]
- Public videos and news stories are circulating of hundreds of elite Covid-vaccinated athletes dropping dead across global playing fields, as well as music performers; [7]
- The list of significant Court decisions in favor of trampled conscience rights, and against the coercive tactics of Big Pharma, employers and western governments, is growing. [8]
The most notable rebuke against coercive government mandates so far came from the United States Supreme Court in 2022, when it stayed the OSHA requirement for workplace vaccination for all federal employees, prohibiting OSHA from expanding its regulatory authority without clear congressional authorization. [9] Notably for Protestants and Seventh-day Adventists in particular, the Supreme Court’s concern focused on the usurpation of power by the Secretary of Labor for acting like a king, and bypassing the peoples’ representatives in Congress to impose a law which so dramatically infringed employees’ civil liberties. Simply put, Congress never authorized the Secretary of Labor to compel universal Covid vaccination for all federal employees (absent limited and nearly meaningless exception).
A review of western governments show that there were many instances of similar misuse of power. In Canada, in Europe, and in many US states, lockdowns and Covid “vaccine” mandates were imposed on the people not after any legislative process, but through executive action, or even worse, through delegated authority to a largely or entirely unaccountable health official.
In light of these grave legal, scientific, and academic disclosures it is perplexing and embarrassing that SDA conference officials and workers are still proselytizing for their congregants to get their boosters. Why hasn’t a conference wide internal memo been issued advising, “Important! We were wrong! Please stop telling your congregants to inject themselves with dangerous drugs”? This message should be broadcast from the pulpit as a number of notable Adventist evangelists and pastors publicly ridiculed those who were concerned about government threats and coercion to get the shots and the coordinated globalist effort to compel universal compliance.
Maybe there ought to be a private reminder from church brass to the scornful pastors that unvaccinated people pay tithe, too.
Unilateral authoritarianism is the specialty of the first beast of Revelation 13. On the civil side, emulating that governance model is forming an image to the beast – i.e., through executive action which bypasses Congress, or through authoritarian power resting in the hands of health officials who are not democratically accountable. That is how Rome rules, and it is now increasingly how western governments are run. Our leaders are asleep at the switch, or they would have been alerting the world to the prophetic significance of the events of the past three years.
But we know that the temptation to bypass peoples’ representatives to impose executive diktat infected the Seventh-day Adventist Church, as well, and no cure has been administered to date. The General Conference ADCOM unilaterally imposed its notorious vaccine statement and reaffirmation statement on 22 million people without the involvement of delegates.
When church members protested, the GC leadership doubled down with the following:
“The Seventh-day Adventist Church, in consultation with the Health Ministries and Public Affairs and Religious Liberty departments of the General Conference of Seventh-day Adventists, is convinced that the vaccination programs that are generally being carried out are important for the safety and health of our members and the larger community. [10] Therefore, claims of religious liberty are not used appropriately in objecting to government mandates or employer programs designed to protect the health and safety of their communities.” – October 2021 (the “Statement”).
The Statement is nothing short of outrageous, especially against the backdrop of Pfizer’s disclosures. It is clear now that we were lied to by not only Big Government and Big Pharma, but Big General Conference. How could it not be a matter of religious freedom for a Seventh-day Adventist who believes in the health message to refuse to take drugs with toxic and sometimes lethal side effects created by companies that haven’t even studied whether they prevent transmission?
The Statement, which has been utilized by employers around the world to strip religious liberty protections from Seventh-day Adventists, hangs around the neck of President Ted Wilson, and every individual who ratified it, from the members of ADCOM, to the PARL department, to the leaders of the BRI, like the wretched albatross that it is.
Every day that passes without a retraction and apology by the General Conference leadership increases their treachery against Christ, the principles of His government, and humanity. The leadership’s guilty silence in the face of each successive court decision, and now each new revelation of fraud in the marketing of these ineffective and dangerous drug therapeutics is unacceptable.
We were warned: “The Constitution of the United States guarantees liberty of conscience. Nothing is dearer or more fundamental” (The Great Controversy, pages 563-566). The faithful and courageous application of the principles of the Christian religion are every bit as important as the principles themselves. For millions of Seventh-day Adventists and their fellow human beings, refusing to get the Covid shot was a matter of both conscience and religious liberty.
The PARL Department and the General Conference’s failure to stand for them – those who lost their jobs, their civil liberties and their reputations – is inexcusable. Our leadership, our religious liberty lawyers, [11] and many of our evangelists who have turned a blind eye to the suffering of those who have stood for conscience-sake against these mandates, have proven themselves to be unfit to lead and unsafe to follow.
The Statement needs to be withdrawn. An independent committee needs to be created, comprised largely of lay church members who are not on the church payroll in any way, to study this monumental debacle. And many of our leaders should apologize and resign.
It is not yet too late to do the right thing.
About: Concerned Adventist Professionals is an international group comprised of Adventist lay people.
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[2] Ibid.
[3] Pfizer admits COVID vaccine was never tested for transmission – The Counter Signal; Press conference after Pfizer CEO Albert Bourla refused to answer in front of European Parliament – YouTube
[4] https://thepostmillennial.com/we-were-lied-to-by-everyone-ben-shapiro-walks-back-support-for-covid-vaccine?utm_campaign=64494 – Notable commentators like Ben Shapiro, who has had both Covid shots, has retracted his support for the jabs, saying that, “we were lied to by everyone”.
[5] https://www.floridahealth.gov/newsroom/2022/10/20220512-guidance-mrna-covid19-vaccine.pr.html ; https://www.theepochtimes.com/mkt_app/texas-rejects-new-cdc-recommendation-to-mandate-the-covid-shot-to-school-children_4817977.html
[6] Horowitz: Numerous surveys and data points show an unimaginable level of vaccine injury – Conservative Review; https://t.me/PeterMcCullough/2550
[7] https://t.me/PeterMcCullough/2474; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m4HXLXKZN3s; https://twitter.com/PearsonSharp/status/1554231706613231616; https://globalcovidsummit.org/vaccine-injured/-1024-athlete-cardiac-arrests-serious-issues-666-dead-after-covid-shot
[8] https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/21pdf/21a244_hgci.pdf; Public Health Sudbury Districts v Ontario Nurses’ Association, 2022 CanLII 48440 (ONLA); https://eddsa.blob.core.usgovcloudapi.net/public/85163_2022_George_Garvey_et_al_v_City_of_New_York_et_al_DECISION___ORDER_ON_37.pdf
[9] Ibid.
[10] This portion of the statement raises the false justification of the common good as an excuse to violate an individual’s religious rights, and to attempt to explain away General Conference inaction in the face of persecution of Adventists, and many other millions of people.
[11] Georgetown-educated lawyer James Standish strongly implied that people who refused the Covid shot to be denied baptism/membership in the Seventh-day Adventist Church.
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AMEN!!! This needs to be shouted from the mountaintops! Will we see if the GC will do the right thing. Sadly, if they are true to form, they will not.
Thank you Andy for being a courageous watchman!
The congregation of the Seventh Day Adventist Church Worldwide should demand the resignation of the General Conference. If they don’t, then it’s their fault for allowing this to happen. If the congregation refuse to do so, then they themselves are guilty. The general conference will not be getting money from me till they clean up their act. Ellen White would turn over in her grave if she knew what they are doing. Of course, she said this would happen.
Thanks Andy for this so truthful article.
The class who do not feel grieved over their own spiritual declension, nor mourn over the sins of others, will be left without the seal of God. {5T 211.1}
The article was written by faithful Seventh-day Adventists who wish to remain anonymous. We are glad to share it with all of you.
Thank you Pastor Andy for all the work that you are doing to alert SDA believers of present truth affecting our religious freedoms. Our backsliding SDA Conferences are no longer advocating for it’s parishioners, but for the Roman Catholic Church.
No doubt we are living in perilous times; when evil shall abound and thrive, even in The Lord’s sanctuary. It is not in question that the leaders of our church are as guilty as sin. When the righteous shall live by faith in Christ Jesus our Blessed Creator and Redeemer and Him alone. For the leaders are satanically and demonically compromised. Let’s face from whence our help cometh from; The Lord and Him alone.
Why should we be surprised at the actions of the GC and Religious Liberty department. Especially since the RL department is run by Diop!!! I personally believe that Diop is a Jesuit plant. He has all the ear marks of what a Jesuit plant would do to destroy the Adventist Church. The GC should screen their employees better when they put people like Diop into high positions.
The GC should have NEVER made any kind of statement for or against the vaccines and further tell everyone that it was NOT a religious issue!!! That is exactly what it was when those mandates came out by the federal government. We have been warned that our government will clasp hands with Rome to pass a National Sunday Law. We are to have nothing to do with our federal government, including voting for any persons that are running for office.
I can not believe how many of my fellow Adventists voted for Biden! They now carry all the sins that he has committed onto themselves! The second coming for many Adventists is going to be a dark and solemn day, instead of a joyous day.
I firmly reject your statement that “The GC should have NEVER made any kind of statement for or against the vaccines”. Instead, the GC should have issued a stern warning to the church to avoid these horrible injections at all costs.
it is a bridge to far to cross for TW GC and his yes man committee ADCOM. They will never admit fault or any culpability in bowing to
merchants of pharamekia. They will triple down now and do what they are doing carrying drugs to those they have influence over
stil land that is the children in the school or young people that are beholden to school training to get a career.
They still are mandating shots at LL. The very place that the vaccine drug policy originated from.
Do recall the train station vision of EGW that she stated that she saw NO shepherd’s leading the sheep in the church, that
God would raise up men to lead the flock….
the train station was at Loma Linda.
Amen, Amen and again Amen. I’m jumping for joy to read this letter. I Praise Jesus so much, because these words assure me that the LORD is very much with His faithful followers and He will continue to be guiding us through the coming storm. The jesuit leaders of this church, wilson, diop and many others will pay a very heavy price for their deceitfulness.
I am very glad to hear of this lay movement. Praise be. May justice and truth triumph concerning this matter. I am a registered nurse(retired) and I fully approve. I
did not get any vaccine, and I never had any sickness the past few years. Even a nurse understands viruses. And there is an overwhelming amount of solid medical
evidence that has been put out there, very factual, warning people. Our church can not follow leaders and not think for themselves. Soon the stakes will be much
higher. Will SDA’s go along with Christian Nationalism, also? We need to awaken and see what is happening, before it is too late.
The SDA organization has been in apostasy for a long time, these are just more foul fruits showing their ugly head.
Take these few things:
– Ted Wilson stated on camera: “There are no Sunday laws in the pipeline at this time” Preaching peace and safety.
– General Conference leaders are pushing the covid agenda/vaccine agenda and twisting scripture to say its up to each individual to choose; when as Christians we should be not putting harmful chemicals, unclean pig cells, and aborted fetal cells into our temples.
– The General Conference leaders have been manipulating Sister Whites writings for years and years. These edited “Ellen white books” are loaded with false doctrine and contradictions. She hasn’t even written the majority of books that are published under her name like “Desire of Ages” and “Patriarchs and Prophets” for two examples. We must revive the original SOP books
– When SDA pastors are saying that Allah is the Christian God to their congregations
– When most SDA churches join with the state in a 501c3 contract creating an image to the second beast of Revelation.
– When the SDA church changed the statement of faith. By doing this they were not labeled as a “cult” and were allowed to join in with the world council of churches
– Yes, some SDAs tithe directly to the pope
– The modern and changed SDA statement of faith proclaims the dogma of the Vatican trinity, when sister White clearly said multiple times over that there are three beings in the Godhead, Three heavenly powers, Three that are all in one agreement. Three beings that are one in mind, purpose and goal.
– SDAs participating in Catholic events, and supporting the antiChristian power like all other churches.
– Advent health supporting nascar, lgbtq agendas, drinking events, and breaking the sabbath openly
– Participating in ecumenical meetings
– ordaining transgender elders and allowing female pastors
The list could go on and on…
Heed the call, Revelation 18:4-5 “And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues. For her sins have reached unto heaven, and God hath remembered her iniquities.”
They have become part of babylon.
https://sdaapostasy.org/
Forgot to leave this link.
EGW never said for the faithful to leave the SDA church….who are going to leave the church are those apostate unfaithful leaders and members of our church, which endorse this and many other evils within our chuch, those who have compromised themselves with Jesuitism (or are Jesuists infiltrators themselves). May God’s people remain faithful to Him and stay away from those evil so called vaccines!
You may want to read Early Writings, specifically the sections (not just the paragraphs referenced in what follows) titled “Preparation for the End” (69.2), “The Advent Movement Illustrated” (242.1), “Another Illustration” (249.2), “The Second Angels Message” (273.2), “A Firm Platform” (258.3 – 261.1) & “Subsequent Visions” (33.2). Interestingly, Early Writings contains a roadmap for these last days, found in some of the first things that Sister White wrote. In this roadmap, a few things are unmistakable:
1. The GC, through the trustees of the White Estate took great pains to write a historical prologue in order to convince the SDA people that what Sister White wrote in this priceless book was nothing more than a historical sketch – just a story to remind us where we came from. This effort reveals that they fear that we will understand the prophetic significance of the book and it’s direct applicability to us in these last days.
2. The language she uses is constantly making reference to the time of the end, the last days, the time of trouble, the time of the plagues, etc. This is obviously at odds with the idea that Early Writings is merely historical in nature.
3. In the context of a future time of trouble, she makes it clear that the first and second angels messages must be given to the church (SDA’s). These messages are rejected by the leadership and the majority of the membership. Please note that this is in process of happening now – study diligently to find out how as it is of the utmost importance. It is in that timeframe (time of the end) that she exhorts to come out of her – the corporate SDA church. Then the third angel’s message is directed to God’s people to be found in the world at large. At that time, the opportunity for the corporate SDA church is passed. Like Jerusalem of old, only destruction awaits. Our house is left unto us desolate.
Scripture is replete with warnings of the destruction of Jerusalem – most of them in a very clear end time context. Jeremiah comes to mind. Read it considering that SDA’s were the chosen people of God, the apple of his eye for the last days. But like Israel, we failed in our commission to be a light to the world and instead joined with the world in apostasy and idolatry. Sister white says:
“In the Scriptures are presented truths that relate especially to our own time. To the period just prior to the appearing of the Son of man, the prophecies of Scripture point, and here their warnings and threatenings pre-eminently apply.” RH September 25, 1883, par. 6
The first chapter of the Spirit of Prophecy, Volume 1 is the story of the destruction of Jerusalem. The first thing Sister White writes is a quote from Luke 19:43, 44. We are the fulfillment of Christ’s prophetic words… we know not the time of our visitation, for it is all but bearing down upon us with full force.
The church that Sister White foresaw passing through to the return of Christ has nothing to do with General Conference led, denominational Seventh-day Adventism. Rather, the church that she constantly makes reference to are those people who keep the commandments of God and have the faith of Jesus Christ. If we look to the denomination as our stronghold, despite the repeated evidences that she has left God and forsaken his Son, then we will find ourselves in precisely the same condition that the multitudes of Jews found themselves in when Rome came and utterly destroyed their beloved city.
Exactly Eric! The SDA church has fallen just like the jewish nation did.
The work moves on to those who are obedient – the 11th hour church (Matthew 20:1-16)
It has nothing to do with SDA’s, but everything to do with those who keep His commandments and have the faith of Jesus – if they come out of the fallen churches to follow the Lamb withersoever he goeth.
Revelation 14:12 “Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus.”
Revelation 14:4 “These are they which were not defiled with women; for they are virgins. These are they which follow the Lamb whithersoever he goeth. These were redeemed from among men, being the firstfruits unto God and to the Lamb.”
What you said:
“The church that Sister White foresaw passing through to the return of Christ has nothing to do with General Conference led, denominational Seventh-day Adventism. Rather, the church that she constantly makes reference to are those people who keep the commandments of God and have the faith of Jesus Christ. If we look to the denomination as our stronghold, despite the repeated evidences that she has left God and forsaken his Son, then we will find ourselves in precisely the same condition that the multitudes of Jews found themselves in when Rome came and utterly destroyed their beloved city.” A M E N
Exactly Eric! The SDA church has fallen just like the jewish nation did.
The work moves on to those who are obedient – the 11th hour church (Matthew 20:1-16)
It has nothing to do with SDA’s, but everything to do with those who keep His commandments and have the faith of Jesus – if they come out of the fallen churches to follow the Lamb withersoever he goeth.
Revelation 14:12 “Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus.”
Revelation 14:4 “These are they which were not defiled with women; for they are virgins. These are they which follow the Lamb whithersoever he goeth. These were redeemed from among men, being the firstfruits unto God and to the Lamb.”
I will get back to you on the Godhead quotes 🙂 thanks
If you need to reach out my email is biblicalandfound@gmail.com
Nini,
You definitely didn’t read the tens and tens of quotations from Sister white on sdaapostasy.org I see then.
Hi Austin,
Wondering if you could provide the reference where sister White clearly says that there are “three Beings in the Godhead”. I know about the “three great heavenly powers” (note: that isn’t synonymous with beings in a Godhead), and I know about “the heavenly trio” which she then continues to describe as great powers (again, not synonymous with beings in a Godhead), I’ve even read where she says three living persons (but I’m not familiar with anywhere that she says there are beings, members, or individuals in a Godhead. The only use of the word Godhead that I’m aware of is to describe the characteristic of divinity which pertains only to God the Father and to the One that it pleased the Father in whom that fullness should dwell. Notice the following quote:
“It is God’s design that this longing of the human heart should lead to the one who alone is able to satisfy it. The desire is of Him that it may lead to Him, the fullness and fulfillment of that desire. That fullness is found in Jesus the Christ, the Son of the Eternal God. “For it was the good pleasure of the Father that in Him should all the fullness dwell;” “For in Him dwelleth all the fullness of the Godhead bodily.” And it is also true that “In Him ye are made full” with respect to every desire divinely implanted and normally followed.” DA 17.3
Thanks for any input you can provide to clarify.
Here you go Eric,
“Here is where the work of the Holy Ghost comes in, after your baptism. You are baptized in the name of the Father, of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost. You are raised up out of the water to live henceforth in newness of life—to live a new life. You are born unto God, and you stand under the sanction and the power of the three holiest beings in heaven, who are able to keep you from falling. You are to reveal that you are dead to sin; your life is hid with Christ in God. Hidden “with Christ in God”—wonderful transformation. [Colossians 3:3.] This is a most precious promise. When I feel oppressed and hardly know how to relate myself toward the work that God has given me to do, I just call upon the three great Worthies, and say: You know I cannot do this work in my own strength. You must work in me, and by me, and through me, sanctifying my tongue, sanctifying my spirit, sanctifying my words, and bringing me into a position where my spirit shall be susceptible to the movings of the Holy Spirit of God upon my mind and character.” {21LtMs, Ms 95, 1906, par. 29}
“I am instructed to say that the leading men in our institutions should make a much more favorable record than some have made in the past, or God will certainly bring them into judgment. It is wholly unacceptable to God for us to make a display in any line of our work. It is dishonoring to Him for His people to do for display that which piles debts upon His institutions. God requires truth in the inward parts. The church is pledged to honor God. When the members took part in the solemn rite of baptism, they took a solemn vow to be separate from the world and to live unto Christ, to be loyal and obedient to Him. They were buried with Christ in baptism, in the name of the Father, and the Son, and the Holy Ghost. These three powers of heaven will be their strength and efficiency at all times if they are faithful to their baptismal vow.” {20LtMs, Ms 162, 1905, Par. 32}
“The Comforter that Christ promised to send after He ascended to heaven, is the Spirit in all the fulness of the Godhead, making manifest the power of divine grace to all who receive and believe in Christ as a personal Saviour. There are three living persons of the heavenly trio; in the name of these three great powers—the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit—those who receive Christ by living faith are baptized, and these powers will co-operate with the obedient subjects of heaven in their efforts to live the new life in Christ.” {21LtMs, Ms 21, 1906, par. 11}
“The Lord instructed us that this was the place in which we should locate, and we have had every reason to think that we are in the right place. We have been brought together as a school, and we need to realize that the Holy Spirit, who is as much a person as God is a person, is walking through these grounds, unseen by human eyes, that the Lord God is our Keeper and Helper. He hears every word we utter and knows every thought of the mind.” {14LtMs, Ms 66, 1899, par. 11}
“The Holy Spirit always leads to the written Word. The Holy Spirit is a person; for He beareth witness with our spirits that we are the children of God. When this witness is borne, it carries with it its own evidence. At such times we believe and are sure that we are the children of God. What strong evidence of the power of truth we can give to believers and unbelievers when we can voice the words of John, “We have known and believed the love that God hath to us. God is love; and he that dwelleth in love dwelleth in God, and God in him.” [1 John 4:16.] {21LtMs, Ms 20, 1906, par. 31}
“The Holy Spirit has a personality, else He could not bear witness to our spirits and with our spirits that we are the children of God. He must also be a divine person, else He could not search out the secrets which lie hidden in the mind of God. “For what man knoweth the things of a man save the spirit of man, which is in him; even so the things of God knoweth no man, but the Spirit of God.” [1 Corinthians 2:11.] {21LtMs, Ms 20, 1906, par. 32}
“We are to realize that if we work the works of Christ, we will not unite with the world. The Holy Spirit will give us a clear, distinct message to the world. If we will come into close relation to Christ, we shall have a part to act in carrying forward the work of present truth for this time. We are to co-operate with the three highest powers in heaven—the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit; and these powers will work through us, making us workers together with God. But when a man goes forth in human sufficiency, then the enemy comes in and inspires him, and he knows not what manner of spirit he is of. The Lord saw this and instructed me that, at the General Conference held in Oakland, I should hold no conversation with you.” {18LtMs, Lt 253a, 1903, par. 18}
Let me know if you need anything else 🙂
Love in Christ,
austin
Thank you Austin. I’m looking at them and will get back to you with any ?’s.
Hi Austin,
Thank you again for providing the references that you sent. I’ve looked at each of them and was either previously familiar with them or else read them in their full context.
The first quote from 21LtMs, Ms 95, 1906, par. 29 is a very interesting and unique (one of a kind) quote that I’ve not seen before. I found that it is from a sermon delivered on October 20, 1906 of which stenographic notes were taken. I frequently refer to Sister White’s sermons, but always try to bear in mind that it was not written by her hand and is therefore subject to the possibility of misrepresentations of what she actually said, or intended to say. Because only stenographic notes were taken of her sermons, those notes generally no longer exist and thus there usually are no scans available for further study – not that further of study of a stenographic clerk’s notes would necessarily yield any great results. Sister White did not have an opportunity to review those notes before they were posted to the EGW website as she would have done with a work that was either sent out as a letter, article or a full book while she was alive. Her repeated council to us was to refer to her published writings and not to what others report that she said:
“And now to all who have a desire for truth I would say: Do not give credence to unauthenticated reports as to what Sister White has done or said or written. If you desire to know what the Lord has revealed through her, read her published works. Are there any points of interest concerning which she has not written, do not eagerly catch up and report rumors as to what she has said. — 5T 696.1
“I am now looking over my DIARIES and COPIES OF LETTERS written for several years back, commencing before I went to Europe, before you were born. I have the most precious matter to reproduce and place before the people in testimony form. While I am able to do this work, the people must have these things to revive past history, that they may see that THERE IS ONE STRAIGHT CHAIN OF TRUTH, WITHOUT ONE HERETICAL SENTENCE, in that which I have written. This, I am instructed, is to be a living letter to all in regard to my faith.” 20LtMs, Lt 329a, 1905, par. 3
Thus, when there is an apparent “contradiction” between a stenographic record and a published writing, the published writing takes precedence – I hope you can agree that’s a reasonable conclusion that does no harm to the validity and inspiration of the Spirit of Prophecy. The next thing I’ve already noted is that this quote is singular (as far as I’m aware) in all of her writings and sermons. She never confirms this statement of three “beings” in any of her work published in her lifetime. I think, without intending to offend, that this is not sufficient evidence to categorize as a “clearly stated” doctrine. I generally look to apply the same principle stated in Scripture to her writings… “In the mouth of two and three witnesses.” Here are some quotes from some of her published works that seem to indicate differently from what was recorded in the notes from the sermon you provided:
“Before the entrance of evil, there was peace and joy throughout the universe. All was in perfect harmony with the Creator’s will. Love for God was supreme, love for one another impartial. Christ the Word, the only begotten of God, was one with the eternal Father,—one in nature, in character, and in purpose,—the ONLY BEING in all the universe that could enter into all the counsels and purposes of God. By Christ, the Father wrought in the creation of all heavenly beings. “By him were all things created, that are in Heaven, … whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers;” [Colossians 1:16.] and to Christ, equally with the Father, all Heaven gave allegiance.” GC88 493.1
The Father and Christ… Christ is the ONLY being that could enter into all the counsels and purposes of God the Father.
“Lucifer in heaven, before his rebellion, was a high and exalted angel, NEXT IN HONOR TO GOD’S DEAR SON. His countenance, like those of the other angels, was mild and expressive of happiness. His forehead was high and broad, showing a powerful intellect. His form was perfect; his bearing noble and majestic. A special light beamed in his countenance and shone around him brighter and more beautiful than around the other angels; yet Christ, God’s dear Son, had the pre-eminence over all the angelic host. He was one with the Father before the angels were created. Lucifer was envious of Christ, and gradually assumed command which devolved on Christ alone.” SR 13.1
Again, the Father and Christ… then next in honor (before sin), Lucifer.
To avoid any misconceptions, let me say plainly – I believe in the Holy Spirit and by no means am I suggesting that EGW didn’t believe in the Holy Spirit. The problem is that many today have a misconception of what Sister White believed and wrote about the identity of God and more specifically the identity of the Holy Spirit because we have been conditioned by the church leadership to adopt a three-fold God. The evidence clearly reveals that the leadership doesn’t really care whether you think that the three-in-one God is a Trinity, meaning three coequal, coeternal and consubstantial persons (more like personalities) which make up one God being (as you correctly noted, the orthodox view of the Trinity which is defined by the Roman Catholic Church and which is the official position of the SDA church as confirmed by the Biblical Research Institute); or whether you think in tri-theistic terms, meaning one God composed of three divine beings which are of one purpose but are each independently divine, all knowing, eternal and all-powerful without being dependent on one of the others to supply any of these characteristics (this is what I have found that the majority of SDA laity believe without knowing that the denomination’s official position is different than their own). The leadership are content to have you accept either position, so long as you believe in some variant of three. This is very odd because at the very core of the matter is a different God, and the God that we worship has everything to do with salvation, otherwise we could rightfully worship Baal and expect salvation. Which one is the true God and which is the false God? That’s a trick question because they’re both false gods; and this is the reason why either position is accepted in the church apostate. Yet, if someone confesses that there is only one true God, the Father (John 17:3) and that he has a literal only begotten Son (John 3:16) to whom He has given ALL things (John 3:35), including his original, unborrowed and underived life (John 5:26), then a business meeting is called by the church pastor to see what must be done to squelch this vile heresy.
The Holy Spirit is undeniable… the question is, who is the Holy Spirit?
““If any of you lack wisdom, let him ask of God, that giveth to all men liberally, and upraideth not; and it shall be given him. But let him ask in faith, nothing wavering.” [James 1:5, 6.] “And whatsoever we ask, we receive of him because we keep his commandments and do those things that are pleasing in his sight.” [1 John 3:22.] “And we know that the Son of God is come, and hath given us an understanding, that we may know him that is true, and we are in him that is true, even in his Son Jesus Christ. This is the true God, and eternal life. Little children keep yourselves from idols.” [1 John 5:20, 21.] The Lord is soon to come. We want that complete and perfect understanding which the Lord alone can give. It is not safe to catch the spirit from another. We want the Holy Spirit, which is Jesus Christ. If we commune with God, we shall have strength and grace and efficiency.” 9LtMs, Lt 66, 1894, par. 18
“THE HOLY SPIRIT IS THE SPIRIT OF CHRIST, which is sent to all men to give them sufficiency, that through His grace we might be complete in Him. The Lord has provided that we should always be under the teaching and influence of the Holy Spirit. We shall then discover that the law of God is holy, just, and good, and we would learn to delight in the law of God. We love the requirements of the law, and from our hearts render obedience to its requirements.” 9LtMs, Lt 11a, 1894, par. 23
“The Saviour is our Comforter. This I have proved Him to be. I do not understand why I am so afflicted. At first I tried to reason out why I did not have strength to bear my testimony to the people in this country. But I try no longer. I have given my way and my will into the hands of God, for He knows what is best for me. It is not the manifestation of His great and awful majesty and unparalleled power that will leave us without excuse if we refuse Him our love and obedience. It is the love, the compassion, the patience, the longsuffering that He has shown which will witness against those who do not offer Him the willing service of their lives.” 7LtMs, Ms 34, 1892, par. 30
“The Holy Spirit is Christ’s representative, but divested of the personality of humanity, and independent thereof. Cumbered with humanity, Christ could not be in every place personally. Therefore it was for their interest that He should go to the Father, and send the Spirit to be His successor on earth. No one could then have any advantage because of his location or his personal contact with Christ. By the Spirit the Saviour would be accessible to all. In this sense He would be nearer to them than if He had not ascended on high.” DA 669.2
Note that in the DA quote above, the Holy Spirit is… divested of the personality of humanity. If the Holy Spirit is divested, meaning to be rid of, or stripped of humanity, then that necessarily means that the Holy Spirit was at a prior point in time vested of humanity. That is what she says in the very next sentence in describing Christ as being cumbered with humanity! This reveals the continuity of understanding in the Testimonies of Jesus.
But some might ask, if the Holy Spirit is Christ, then what was it that came down from heaven like a dove?
It is very hard for us to let go of concepts that are deeply entrenched in our minds by a lifetime of tireless repetition by those in positions of leadership. Perhaps that’s why we ask questions like this. As we ask the question, we must resolve in our hearts that we will accept the plain and clear statements from inspiration and then use the opportunity of finding the answer to the question for the purpose seeing how our preconceived ideas may have been mislead or misdirected; keeping in mind that we have all been subject to brainwashing/conditioning/programming. If we don’t make this resolution, we run the risk of trying to turn the prophet, and even the scriptures, against themselves by simply drawing from a different quote whose wording better suits our ideas. What came down at Christ’s baptism?
“Never had angels listened to such a prayer. They were solicitous to bear to the praying Redeemer messages of assurance and love. But no; the Father himself will minister to his Son. Direct from the throne proceeded the light of the glory of God. The heavens were opened, and beams of light and glory proceeded therefrom and assumed the form of a dove, in appearance like burnished gold. The dove-like form was emblematical of the meekness and gentleness of Christ.” YI March 1, 1874, par. 4
Thus, we can see that it was not a third being, but rather the glory of God, which I don’t believe is incorrect to describe as the power of God.
The second quote you provided from 20LtMs, Ms 162, 1905, Par. 32 identifies three powers in heaven… Father (God), Son (Jesus Christ), and Holy Ghost (spirit of God and Jesus Christ [Mat 10:20, Gal 4:6, Rom 8:9]). There should be no question that there are three powers in heaven. God is spirit (John 4:24), yet he has a form (EW 77.1) because Jesus is the express image of the Father’s person (Heb 1:3). The Father imparted his Holy Spirit upon Christ upon his ascension, and then in turn, Christ imparts that same Spirit, which he possesses by virtue of it being given to him by the Father, upon his disciples. This was alluded to in the prior quote from DA 669.2 and is more specifically and clearly stated in Acts 2:33 and Titus 3:5-6. See also Heb 1:9.
Act 2:33 Therefore being by the right hand of God exalted, and having received of the Father the promise of the Holy Ghost, he hath shed forth this, which ye now see and hear.
Titus 3:5-6 Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost; Which he shed on us abundantly through Jesus Christ our Saviour;
Heb 1:9 Thou hast loved righteousness, and hated iniquity; therefore God, even thy God, hath anointed thee with the oil of gladness above thy fellows.
It is clear that the Father exists and has power regardless of where his Holy Spirit is imparted. This is a characteristic of Godhead (divinity) which none of God’s creation possesses, so far as we are aware. Christ, as the begotten Son of God, inherited the same divinity (Godhead) that characterizes the Father. It is also clear from Scripture that Christ received the gift of the Holy Spirit from the Father and it therefore belongs to him and is rightfully referred to as the Spirit of Christ (Phil 1:19). Thus, when Christ sends the Holy Spirit as his successor, he continues to exist, even in his humanity, with power in Heaven. Are there three powers in heaven? Undoubtedly. Note that by no means does this automatically reveal that there are three beings in a very exclusive club called “the Godhead” in heaven. That would be reading into the statement what is not there and using the word “Godhead” in a way that it’s definition does not support.
The third quote you provided from 21LtMs, Ms 21, 1906, par. 11 falls into the same category as the one we just evaluated above. The only difference is that it makes reference to three persons. The mind which has been trained to believe in a three-fold god (either Trinitarian or tri-theistic) immediately latches on to the three persons statement as the proof of their position, while at the same time forgetting about, or worse yet, ignoring the hundreds, even thousands of evidences from Scripture and the published writings of Sister White which inform us that there is one God, the Father, and one Lord Jesus Christ (1 Cor 8:6) who is the Son of God. We are trained to believe in three God’s or otherwise a three-headed God, while at the same time doing what Sister White describes below:
“As the special work of Satan has been to separate the Father and the Son, he has so blinded the eyes of the Christian world that they now turn from the Father and from His law and dwell wholly upon Christ.” 10MR 156.4
“In the popular churches, we hear but little except, ‘Do you love Jesus?’ The love of the Father is scarcely mentioned; it is only Christ, Christ. God the Father has given unto man the greatest gift that Heaven held. ‘Behold what manner of love the Father hath bestowed upon us, that we should be called the sons of God.’ I believe that the heart of the great God is touched and moved by the condition of sinners today, as when he gave his Son to die for the sins of the world. Christ says, ‘I and my Father are one.’ (Ellen G. White, Review and Herald, 4th May 1876, ‘Camp-meeting at Eagle Lake)
The word “God” as used in scripture and Sister White’s writings, predominantly identifies a singular being. It is the identity of an individual who is the originator of all things. “God” is not a word describing a condition or a characteristic except in a very few cases (I think only twice). This is why the Bible says so many times and in so many different ways that God is One, for example:
Deuteronomy 4:35
Deuteronomy 6:4
Ps 83:18
Isa 42:8
Isa 45:5-6
Jeremiah 10:10
Mal. 2:10.
Taking hold of this truth, we can then ask ourselves, how have my preconceived ideas and conditioning caused me to misunderstand or misapply the meaning of the words I have just read (for instance the three persons of the heavenly trio). Is there a person of the Father? Yes. The person of the Father is evident in that he has spoken with his voice from heaven and he sits upon a throne. Is there a person of Christ? Yes. His person in human form can now be found in heaven, at all times interceding on our behalf before the mercy seat. Is there a person of the Holy Spirit? Yes! The person of the Holy Spirit is perceived by God’s people. We are instructed to remain silent with regard to just what the Holy Spirit is, but we are very clearly informed as to who the person of the Holy Spirit is. It is Christ, but only the divine nature of Christ. His humanity dictates that his physical presence may only be in one place at a time, but his Holy Spirit, which is divested of humanity, does not have that limitation. In this way, we can reconcile all statements which Scripture and the Spirit of Prophecy state without needing to “forget” about certain inconvenient statements that don’t fit our model. We must never play the game of trying to find quotes from inspiration that contradict in order to prove our position. The contradiction lies within us and we must reconcile ourselves to agree with inspiration.
The fourth quote from 14LtMs, Ms 66, 1899, par. 11 is another sermon given by Sister White at the Avondale church of which stenographic notes were taken. We have already addressed the use of notes versus her actual writings. Beyond that, it is also a matter of context. Of course, the greater context includes all that we have seen so far, plus the entirety of all the rest of God’s testimony through his prophets which must be in agreement, but it also includes the context of the quote itself. If we read a little before and after the selected PORTION of the paragraph quoted, it is evident that that Sister White was not referring to a separate individual called the Holy Spirit, but to the Lord. Let’s look at the full paragraph:
“The Lord says this because He knows it is for our good. He would build a wall around us, to keep us from transgression, so that His blessing and love may be bestowed on us in rich measure. This is the reason we have established a school here. The Lord instructed us that this was the place in which we should locate, and we have had every reason to think that we are in the right place. We have been brought together as a school, and we need to realize that the Holy Spirit, who is as much a person as God is a person, is walking through these grounds, unseen by human eyes, that the Lord God is our Keeper and Helper. He hears every word we utter and knows every thought of the mind. 14LtMs, Ms 66, 1899, par. 11
We have previously established that the Holy Spirit is the Spirit of God and the Spirit of Christ, thus, it is undeniably true that if Christ and the Father are persons, then their Holy Spirit which they send to us and speaks to us, is a person… it is their person, only separated from their physical person.
Let’s see what other statements Sister White makes in her written work that lend understanding to the notes of her sermon we have just read… who is “walking through these grounds, unseen by human eyes” and “hears every word we utter”:
“Christ walks unseen through our streets. With messages of mercy He comes to our homes. With all who are seeking to minister in His name, He waits to co-operate. He is in the midst of us, to heal and to bless, if we will receive Him.” MH 107.2
“How few realize that Jesus, unseen, is walking by their side. How ashamed many would be to hear His voice speaking to them, and to know that He heard all their foolish, common talk…” 10LtMs, Lt 57, 1895, par. 34
I have been instructed that we should lead the sick in our institutions to expect large things because of the faith of the physician in the great Healer who, in the years of His earthly ministry went through the towns and villages of the land and healed all who came to Him. None were turned empty away; He healed them all. Let the sick realize that, although unseen, Christ is present to bring relief and healing. 23LtMs, Lt 82, 1908, par. 14
“Jesus desires to make celestial harmony in your soul. Read His words, not with discouragement, but with confidence and hope. Listen to the blessed words which God speaks to you. Walking with Christ means to believe that, THOUGH UNSEEN, CHRIST IS WALKING WITH YOU.” — Letter 104, August 4, 1901, to E. K. Beaman. {TDG 225.7}
“Remember that JESUS IS BESIDE YOU WHEREVER YOU GO, noting your actions and LISTENING TO YOUR WORDS.” (E.G. White, The Youth Instructor, Feb. 4, 1897)
“Go forth in the name of CHRIST, REMEMBERING, THAT-HE IS YOUR COMPANION, THAT EVERY PRAYER, EVERY WORD, EVERY SONG IS HEARD BY HIM. The message of the soon coming of the Lord with power and great glory will bring conviction to many hearts.” {RH, February 4, 1904, pg. 8}
“The LORD JESUS standing BY THE SIDE OF THE CANVASSER, WALKING WITH THEM, is the chief worker. If we recognize CHRIST as the ONE who is with us to prepare the way, THE HOLY SPIRIT BY OUR SIDE WILL MAKE IMPRESSIONS IN JUST THE LINES NEEDED.” {Manual for Canvassers, p. 40}{E. G. White, Colporteur Ministry, p. 107}
Please don’t let it escape your notice how Jesus is interchanged with the Holy Spirit in the above quote. Remember that Christ is in heaven in the Holy of Holies, so it is only by his Holy Spirit that He walks by the side of the canvasser
“By the Spirit the Father and the Son will come and make their abode with you.” {E. G. White, Bible Echo and Signs of the Times, January 15, 1893 par. 8}
Therefore, we may rightly conclude that it is “by the Spirit” we can have the unseen presence of Christ or the unseen presence of the Father and the Son together.
I believe that the last three quotes provided in your reply are all addressed by the preceding, so I won’t belabor the matter. However, I will say that we have only scratched the surface. As I read scripture and the Spirit of Prophecy, it is incredible how these truths now jump off the page at me. I cannot comprehend the extent of my previous blindness, nor my reluctance to let go of my past treasured beliefs, which in truth, I had not studied out to see if it was so. All I can say now is to God be all glory, because he winks at the times of our ignorance. I’m always looking now for new opportunities to correct my thinking to be in agreement with God’s word.
I pray that this will be of some use to you any others which endure to end of this long comment. Blessings.
Eric
KJV Judges 5:23
23 Curse ye Meroz, said the angel of the LORD, curse ye bitterly the inhabitants thereof; because they came not to the help of the LORD, to the help of the LORD against the mighty.
As an illustration of the failure on your part to come up to the work of God, as was your privilege, I was referred to these words: “Curse ye Meroz, said the angel of the Lord, curse ye bitterly the inhabitants thereof; because they came not to the help of the Lord, to the help of the Lord against the mighty.”—Testimonies for the Church 2:247. – ChS 36.2
A bitter curse is pronounced on those who come not to the help of the Lord. “Curse ye Meroz, said the angel of the Lord, curse ye bitterly the inhabitants thereof; because they came not to the help of the Lord, to the help of the Lord against the mighty.” Satan and his angels are in the field to oppose every advance step that God’s people take, therefore the help of everyone is required. – 2T 165.4
You will never be ministers after the gospel order till you show a decided interest in medical missionary work, the gospel of healing and blessing and strengthening. Come up to the help of the Lord, to the help of the Lord against the mighty powers of darkness, that it be not said of you, “Curse ye Meroz, … curse ye bitterly the inhabitants thereof; because they came not to the help of the Lord.” – CH 533.2
As an illustration of the failure on your part to come up to the work of God, as was your privilege, I was referred to these words: “Curse ye Meroz, said the angel of the Lord, curse ye bitterly the inhabitants thereof; because they came not to the help of the Lord, to the help of the Lord against the mighty.” Judges 5:23. What had Meroz done? Nothing. And this was their sin. They came not up to the help of the Lord against the mighty. – 2T 247.1
Ted Wilson, ganoune diop
And the rest should resign if
Big if
They have any shame left in them
Ted Wilson did not allow this discussion at the GC
Catholic priests were willing to give exemptions to their flock while the so called Sda shepherds threw their flocks to the wolves
Shame shame shame
When the GC had a chance to shine they cowered and hid their candles under their beds or extinguished them
Shame on these spineless men
They will never ever sound the alarm or give the loud cry
Me interesan los dos ultimos links. No abren. Me podrias enviar la informacion.
I am interested in the last two links, they do not open. Could you email me the information?
Thank-you Andy for all the great research you do regarding the dangers of the covid vaccines, activities and aims of the vatican and especially the bridgebuilding the SDA GC leadership is performing with the Catholic Church and other religions when they should be warning the world of how close we are to the closing of probation and the 2nd coming of Jesus Christ, and the whole 3 Angels messages and the closing chapters of the Great Controversy that describe the closing events of this world’s existance!
This report was done by a small remnant of faithful Seventh-day Adventist professionals. Praise the Lord that not everyone has bowed their knee to the Covid tyranny.
If any have a chance to watch the documentary “The Real Anthony Fauci” please do so… some of what this evil man has done I knew about but a lot I did not…
He and Bill G (along with big tech billionaires) take their direction from the devil himself, they are responsible for thousands and thousands of deaths and using children as guinea pigs, no different than Dr. Mengle in WW2.
Watch this and you will see that evil devising’s have been going on behind the scenes and very few know it… Jesus is coming soon!!
https://www.therealanthonyfaucimovie.com/viewing/
It has been extremely saddening for me to witness the level of compromise the SDA church is involved in. God gave precise warnings about the wrong path the organization has been on, but His warnings have fallen on deaf ears.
The push for covid vaccination in the church has been the climax of the fall of the church. The church has promoted and given to its members the number of the beast and this is an irreversible act. Woe unto the unfaithful pastors and leaders.
This article explains how the covid vaccine is the number of the beast:
https://whitecloudfarm.org/article-series/the-bridegroom-cometh/to-be-in-that-number
What we see in Rev. 13 is religious power working with state power to rule over society. What we see in covid 19 is medical “science” connecting with state power to rule society, setting a precedence for climate change “science” connecting with state power to rule society in a national Sunday law.
How loud can I shout AMEN!! to this article! This was just a mid-term test before the finals and our church miserably failed. Lord help us we pray! And He will.
A pandemic of silence is sweeping the church.
It seems that the church doesn’t want to talk about this. These leaders want to move on, talk about missions, and act as if nothing happened. They clearly sided with tyranny and not with freedom or liberty of conscience. This reflects poorly on our history of defending religious liberty. What a shame.