The Vatican flag represents the spiritual and political power of Pope Francis and points to the headquarters of the Roman Catholic Church, the seat of the beast (papal power). On Sabbath, June 11, 2022, the Vatican flag was flown during the Parade of Nations event at the conclusion of the 61st General Conference Session in St. Louis, MO, the Seventh-day Adventist Church’s most important conference. According to Ted Wilson’s explanation to the world session, the banner of Rome was flown to depict the nations not yet reached.
“When the idolatrous standards of the Romans should be set up in the holy ground, which extended some furlongs outside the city walls, then the followers of Christ were to find safety in flight” (Great Controversy, p. 26).
“The time is not far distant, when, like the early disciples, we shall be forced to seek a refuge in desolate and solitary places. As the siege of Jerusalem by the Roman armies was the signal for flight to the Judean Christians, so the assumption of power on the part of our nation in the decree enforcing the papal sabbath will be a warning to us. It will then be time to leave the large cities, preparatory to leaving the smaller ones for retired homes in secluded places among the mountains” (Testimonies, Vol. 5, p. 464).
Paul Brock says
The Holy See flag flying within the 61st session of the GCSDA means only one thing. The “Divining Serpent” was in control of that session !!!
Jo Ann says
God calls his people to come out of all the fallen apostate churches (Rev 4)
Isabel Cristina Saltares says
“Oh SION, la que moras con la hija de Babilonia
E S C A P A T E” Zac. 2:7.
Jess says
For comments like this one is that the extraterrestrials don’t visit us
They think that we are inferior
Lol
How is this!!!
You take an event out of context and gossip
Francois says
please read last day events , page 47 , 48 , 49 and page 51 to 56
God will set everything in order , God will not put a man back
for a second term if there was something wrong
let us get the correct facts before we say things
there must be a reason for this ?
Francois
CMar says
Of course there’s a reason!!! The real reason you may or may not be ready to accept.
Lance McClintock says
Agreed leave the sda apostate church. The church will go underground….
Abdiel says
Esa bandera no puede estar ahi este pais es protestante y los catolicos no deben estar en EEUU ya nadie se acuerda de los peregrinos que vinieron huyendo de la santa Inquisición
Mathias says
God is moving in this session to reach the very places and people where the Advent Truth is not reached. Therefore, thank you for this initiative and plan to reach the very place where the Babylon’s headquarter is build on. Hence,before God will do his Judgement, the Truth must be preach and reach it.
B says
Many beg to differ with your assumption. Flying a flag is in no way reaching out to the very Church of Satan. We don’t cast our pearls before swine that they may turn against us.
Max says
Try to create negativity and division is also not part of God’s plan and all I can see on this page is negative comments trying to discredit the Church. As Jesus once said let those without sin cast the first stone.
Lance McClintock says
Matthew 10:34
“Do not think that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I have not come to bring peace, but a sword.
Yes peace withing the actual faithful body of Christ but a swors to the world.
Know you Bible a little better amd you wont fall for love everyone and everything peace peace lies the devil is using to disarm the church.
Noah says
Brothers and sisters we are living in last days and we should open up our eyes and we should not wait until someone spoonfeed us. In s.d.a we use St, st is used in cotholic
Luis Macias says
This flag has no business in our midst, this President is compromised 100%
Felix says
THE DEVIL IS CUNNING. HE IS TRYING TO EMPLOY THE SAME PRINCIPLES HE USED IN THE PAST TO ONCE AGAIN CONCUR THE REMNANTS THOUGH NOT POSSIBLE . FLYING A FLAG ONLY HAS ONE MEANING, STATUE OF MARY IN CHURCH ONLY HAS ONE MEANING, ECUMENISM ONLY HAS ONE AIM. WHEN THINGS ARE REINTERPRETED TO CONFUSE OUR VIEWS THEN WE MUST KKOW THAT COMPROMISE IS KNOCKING ON THE DOOR POST OF OUR FOUNDATION. I DIFFER WITH THE PRESIDENT ON THAT 100%
William Wilkinson says
If it was such a “sin” for the flag to be displayed, then surely delegates would have made mention of it. If Elder Wilson indeed said it represents nations not yet reached, what is wrong about that? There were no Adventist presence in Somalia (as of 2019). Does that mean that the flag of Somalia should not be displayed? Are people who live in Rome not candidates for salvation?
Herman Lewis says
I am of the opinion that the parade was for the nations with S D A presence!! Is there even one S D A congregation there?????
Fletcher_P says
As was mentioned, this flag was displayed as a country that has not YET been reached. And in answer to your judgemental comment, yes, there are at least two SDA churches in Rome. Remember, Rome is a country, not just a church and there are many in both the country of Rome and in the Catholic Church that will come out.
Emme Smith says
Rome is not currently a country. Rome is a city and is the capital of Italy. There are Adventists churches in Italy and in Rome, Italy is not unreached by Adventists. Vatican City, however, represents a church, a business and a sovereign kingdom nation/country. It is geographically a small country inside Rome (like Lesotho is inside South Africa, and Lesotho people are not South African but are Southern African) but is separate from modern day Rome and Italy and has its own flag which is separate from the Italian flag. No one is born a citizen of Vatican City, all citizens of Vatican City are born citizens of other countries. Therefore there is no need to fly the Vatican flag as a representation of unreached nations. This video explains it further. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OPHRIjI3hXs
Lance McClintock says
You replied to his “Judgmental” comment with judgment in the tone of your reply. Be careful not to be guilty of what you assume others are doing….
And judging is not wrong….
1 Cor 6
3Do you not know that we will judge angels? How much more the things of this life! 4So if you need to settle everyday matters, do you appoint as judges those of no standing in the church? 5I say this to your shame. Is there really no one among you wise enough to arbitrate between his brothers?
Janice says
So, use the Italian flag!
Susan Ignacio john says
The flag is not the Roman flag, it is the flag of the Vatican City. That is a total Catholic state within the country. Actually it is a counter run by the pope of Rome. Why can’t we be like Martin Luther and sever all ties with the Vatican. Not Rome, the Vatican.
melinda says
Context… Context… Context!! Someone is only sharing PART of the story here! In sharing this little video without the context, ADVENT MESSENGER is being extremely misleading! According to Ted Wilson’s explanation to the world session regarding the display of these flags (there were many), the banner of the Vatican was flown (with many other flags) to depict the nations not yet reached by the Last Angels’ Messages. Let’s watch for ourselves and not rely on others’, as they can often be misleading.
Geshom Kashipe says
Is there anything that Rome doesn’t know about SDA church? What message can you preach to Rome that she doesn’t know.If she boasts to change times & laws then what are we going to tell her.Its time to lift our eyes for our salvation draweth nigh.And the whole world wondered after the beast.
Shayfreestew says
You are absolutely correct!! This is unbelievable! The sad thing is that people are looking as President “Secret Ballot” elect as if he’s God in saying things like “If it was wrong he wouldn’t allow it to happen”. He is a mortal man and he can be misled as well as the rest of us!
NM says
The explanation by Ted Wilson is questionable. Right behind the flag of the Vatican was the flag of North Korea which is reached. Our own church website as the below says a country such as North Korea was reached
https://encyclopedia.adventist.org/article?id=A8KD&highlight=Conference
Esther Castillo says
I agree with you. The event is being taken out of contest. The message given in the morning by Pr Wilson is very clear but an act of reaching out to those that are out of the remnant is magnified and taken out of contest.
Instead of using social media to bring hope to the lost. This social media is used to criticize and bring confusion an anger toward the Adventist movement’😢😢
Godstime Godwin says
I do not believe that the so called “Divining Serpent” was in charge of that session.
Jesus Christ is the Head of the church. He is her foundation, walls and builder. He is the husband of the church. That means He was in charge of that session.
However, we know that the church that is today is the church militant. So we expect to see some dirty things. But if you are well observant, you’d see that when the devil through men, brought up weighty issues against Biblical principles to be voted into the policy and fundamental statements of the church, God intervened. Remember the experience of Job in scripture and what happened behind the scenes. The sons of God gathered and Satan came too. But you see like in the story of Job, Satan had his limits because God is the supreme ruler. He couldn’t cross the boundaries given him.
So if there are certain things that we think may have gone wrong or seems to connote something bad, then let us get to study more the Bible and the Spirit of Prophecy to discern clearly the meaning of all these things and the signs of the time. Let us also pray for God’s remnant church and for all in position of trust.
While the SEVENTH-DAY ADVENTIST CHURCH is not Babylon and can never be, yet I know that there are Babylonians in the church trying to corrupt her. They are wolves in sheep clothings. So let us watch and pray the more for the church. We are the church, we are one as brethren, and we must be our brother’s keeper.
Thank you and may God bless you.
Lance McClintock says
SDA church is not the Body of Christ by itself….
This pride and arrogance…
Yes the SDA church can be and will become Babylon. It’s an institution like all others. It will fail and is failing. Come out of these systems let Christ be the only name you ate known by.
Maggie Fahy-Pepper says
Although the article states the reason for flying it, “the banner of Rome was flown to depict the nations not yet reached.”
Soso says
It was at the end of the session that countries where advent message has not yet reached were shown by the means of their flags: Afghanistan, Iran, Vatican… Stop spoiling people by false alarm.
Norma Franz says
Was it just Flags flown for countries where we have not entered? I am confused as to now and in the past what those flags represented in that March
Cheryl says
This should never have taken place.
Ted Wilson explanation is lame.
Kevin Cossentine says
Well, from all I’ve seen about Ted Wilson, he does NOT possess the best intentions for our church. He vacillates all too often on topics. Take Africa for instance during the civil party taking sides, when the one church location was being ripped apart from within. He flip-flopped disgustingly so several times. For him to allow the Roman Catholic Church flag to be flown, makes me wonder about him.
To hear how they elected and re-elected him was unacceptable. A private or secret ballot voting is wrong in so many ways. Makes me think just how much it reflect how Congress has been operating. Shameful. We are supposed to be different than secular & political environments, so why is this happening, other than to say the Canaanites are in the land no IFs, ANDs, or BUTTs about it all.
Akhren says
EGW does say it will look like the church will fall but don’t leave. It will prevail.
Geshom Kashipe says
Right let’s stay in the boat no matter how much wind blows.
Nory says
Amén, estoy de acuerdo con usted. Debemos tener cuidado en no descreditar la iglesia que Dios eligió para cumplir sus planes. Pues aunque esté llena de defectos de esta saldrá la iglesia triunfante. Maranatha!!! hermanos bendiciones 🙏
Judy says
This reminds me how Constantine got the Sabbath keepers to join him in sun worship. They could still keep Sabbath and Sunday. Be careful of excuses as this sends up a red flag. Could this be the time when the wheat and the tares are being separated?
LK says
“When the idolatrous standards of the Romans should be set up in the holy ground, which extended some furlongs outside the city walls, then the followers of Christ were to find safety in flight” (Great Controversy, p. 26).
Come out of her my people. How much plainer can it be?
Jess says
Hermano es usted jesuita?
Como se le ocurre aplicar ese texto a este contexto?
Es usted un levantador de falso testimonio
Ondear las banderas no tiene nada de malo
Lo malo es sacar todo de contexto
Me parece que el diablo está en ustedes queridos !
Godstime Godwin says
By this text from Great controversy, I hope you don’t mean we should run away from the church?
However this text applies to the setting up of a spurious Sabbath by the Beast system through the American government. It is referring to the National Sunday Law not the church.
But as things happen about us and in the church, we should never leave the church. The promise remains that the sinners in Zion will be sifted out, the wheat will be separated from the tares. This is God’s special work to be performed in His church. Let us not be deceived to leave the church.
We may see even worse things happen in the church but we must not dwell so much on them that we become discouraged. We must look unto Jesus the author and finisher of our faith. We must remain in the ship and focus on our Captain and not the storm. This is where our safety lies.
SHALOM!🙏
Paul Juberg says
TRUTH
Lincoln V. says
Just curious if AM has asked about the Vatican flag.
ELIKANA KINGU says
Still am not understanding
M W says
This GC session showed how bold they are in their rebellion. They manipulated and worked out their plans without shame. They showed their kingly power at work and very few protested. And at the end they showed the flag of the power they belong to. Truly, God’s word through the prophet has been fulfilled.”A new organization would be established… Nothing would be allowed to stand in the way of the new movement.” 1SM 204
Lmn says
So true…prophecy is being fulfilled before our eyes.
Eze 8 is being shown here. Next will come Eze 9
Kalu says
Stop playing with fire Before it’s too late!
Yes Ms Jane says
They did this at least once before too,
Remember watching 3ABN the March of nation’s flags being paraded on stage and the two men grinning like imbeciles carrying and waving the Papal/Vatican/Catholic Flag, my family was shocked at the time, probably not so shocked any more.
Rollie says
The Vatican Flag was there, together with other nations flag, unreached yet with the Advent Message. Truthfully, Rome is separated from Italy, one of the nations we are trying to reach with the 3-Angels Message. Please pray for the Church. It is time for Jesus to come and let’s reconcile and unite as a Church.
Ronie Ebrano says
Yes, indeed! That’s the best thing we will and can do now. Let’s pray for one another and for our leaders as well that we may be able to stand for the right though the heavens fall in midst of the testing and trying times. God bless His people in our journey.
Diane says
It was not even the flag of Rome, it was the flag of the Vatican….
Robyn says
The vatican is an independent, valid nation. It is the smallest independent state in the world. Remember Jesus died for those people too. Because its flag was brought in with other nations also not reached yet, doesn’t mean that it is controlling our church or our leaders.
Emme Smith says
Vatican City is/represents a church, a business and a sovereign kingdom nation/country. It is geographically a small country inside Rome (like Lesotho is inside South Africa, and Lesotho people are not South African but are Southern African) but is separate from modern day Rome and Italy and has its own flag which is separate from the Italian flag. No one is born a citizen of Vatican City, all citizens of Vatican City are born citizens of other countries. Additionally, if they lose citizenship they automatically become a citizen of Italy. Therefore there is no need to fly the Vatican flag as a representation of unreached nations. This video explains it further. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OPHRIjI3hXs
Gigi Bici says
This would only become a problem at the 66th GC Session in 2045… When the Vatican flag will be paraded on June 6. At 7:06 AM (whoever can understand, will figure it out 🙂
Rose says
I can only shake my head in amazement! The fact that the Vatican had a representative there means that someone has no problem with friendship with the Great Whore. Certainly it was free advertisement. If Ted Wilson was to be believed in his statement of it representing the unreached then where is the unreached groups of other beliefs? The Vatican may be recognized as a nation but everyone knows it it a religious institution and therefore a system of belief. I am sure that satanists would like the free advertising and so would the spiritualists and mediums. LGBTQIAP would also clamor for their spot in the parade.
This just proves that there are within the SDA Church LEADERS DEVOID of wisdom and showing a familiarity with the enemy of Christ that should never be! Many in church leadership should have been removed from their positions a long, long, long time ago. I don’t understand how many of them got the job in the first place.
Purge your church Lord! May we be found willing to call sin by its name and not be afraid of their threatenings when they retaliate for our boldness in defense of truth.
Bernard says
Well said
Dianne Cox says
Why must the flag of Satans puppets be recognised??😧🤨😩😧
Danny Laufersweiler says
“On Sunday, by request of the president of the temperance society, I spoke upon the subject of temperance. The meeting was held in the soldiers’ military gymnasium, the largest hall in the city. An American flag was placed as a canopy above the pulpit; this was an attention which I highly appreciated. There were about sixteen hundred assembled. Among them was a bishop of the State Church, with a number of the clergy; a large proportion were of the better class of society. ” {EGW HS 207.6} – (in Christiania, Norway)
“In Europe we found the people sound on this question. On one occasion, when I accepted an invitation to speak to a large audience on the subject of temperance, the people did me the honor of draping above the pulpit the American flag. My words were received with the deepest attention, and at the close of my talk a hearty vote of thanks was accorded me. I have never, in all my work on this question, had to accept one word of disrespect.” {EGW, Lt 278, 1907, par. 4}
Glenys says
Please explain why the Vatican flag was amongst all the flags today at the end of the GC? And why did I see Ted Wilson in a picture where he shouldn’t be.
Silvia Rojas says
My dear brethren, praying for our God’s guidance, in this issue presented by the Advent Messenger. Please, prayerful consider these statements from the Spirit of Prophecy, if you sill believe that are inspired by our God:
“The time is not far distant, when, like the early disciples, we shall be forced to seek a refuge in desolate and solitary places. As the siege of Jerusalem by the Roman armies was the signal for flight to the Judean Christians, so the assumption of power on the part of our nation [the United States] in the decree (National Sunday Law) enforcing the papal sabbath will be a warning to us. It will then be time to leave the large cities, preparatory to leaving the smaller ones for retired homes in secluded places among the mountains.” Mar. p. 180.1
“As the siege of Jerusalem by the Roman armies was the signal for flight to the Judean Christians, so the assumption of power on the part of our nation, in the decree enforcing the papal Sabbath, will be a warning to us. It will then be time to leave the large cities, preparatory to leaving the smaller ones for retired homes in secluded places among the mountains.” Testimonies for the Church, Vol. 5, pages 464465
Will says
One question about the flag (s): were they all flags of countries not yet reached by the SDA doctrine??? BTW, we have a representative who claims to not be a representative that sits in on regular sessions of Catholic councils. Just how far in do we have to be in order “to be reached”???
I. Perez says
Cestius Gallus = 2005 GCSession
Titus = 2022 GCSession
Ichabod
Francis says
Parading the Vatican flag is glorifying the power that slew the Saints of the Most High for centuries, and is still doing so. The SDA GC Inc. has become a daughter of Babylon. Come out of her, my people, and be not partakers of her sins.
OMAR says
No tengo todos los detalles para una respuesta correcta. Hasta donde tengo entendido el desfile de las naciones no es tanto por las culturas de países sino países con presencia adventista organizada o no. Los países con no presencia sus banderas suben a la plataforma. Sin defender el punto de la pregunta como mencionado más arriba. La Ciudad del Vaticano a parte de ser la ciudad del papa es una ciudad Estado y lo que viene siendo su presidente es el Papa. Incluida como nación en las ONU. Aunque hay muchos museos y la mayoría de los que viven son sacerdotes también no religiosos viven en áreas no religiosas. Y tengo entendido grupos pequeños se congregan en el Vaticano con apoyo de la Unión Adventista Italiana. Hay que tener en cuenta que la Ciudad del Vaticano está en Roma en Italia pero su área no pertenece a la Republica Italiana. Sino a la Ciudad Estado del Vaticano tal vez sea la razón en el defile. Esa es mi respuesta sin la menor intención de defender el punto. Se puede hacer la pregunta con toda libertad a 1- Instituto de investigación bíblica y 2- al dept. PARL ambos en la Conferencia General Maryland USA.
Silvia Rojas says
If you are willing to know what really means what God show us in regard to this issue, I suggest to read this study from brother Dave Westbrook:
http://amazingnaturalmedicine.org/wp-content/uploads/2022/06/Abomination-of-Desolation-Leaving-the-Cities.pdf
Esperanza Pico says
La preparación para los últimos tiempos es responsabilidad individual. Estudiemos, testifiquemos y confiemos. Tenemos el privilegio de ver el cumplimiento de las señales y la proximidad de su segunda venida. Lo que hagan o dejen de hacer los dirigentes no debe ser nuestra preocupación. Tenemos un cielo que ganar. Hagamos nuestra parte, sin criticar a nadie
Steven Sep says
“According to Ted Wilson’s explanation to the world session, the banner of Rome was flown to depict the nations not yet reached.”
I guess there is no other church that dears to delcare that Vatican needs to be reached with the bible. … what a clear Mission statement!
Samuel Kimani Njoroge says
The general conference of seventh day adventist is now habitation of all evil and hateful bird and all abominations when we try to expose this apostacy and other evil things that are taking place in the church . Church members often dare to accuse of being offshots.
Gee Gee says
We MUST “sigh and cry” for the abominations taking place in the house of God. The leaders have turned their backs to the Temple and are facing the East.
What more evidence do we need to prove our denomination is governed by deception because we have played with the serpent!
Joseph Agen Opio Apiny says
When you see the Abominations of desolation standing in the Holy place 🧏🧏🧏🧏Fleee…….
wkomakech77@gmail.com says
Let’s look at the big picture here. To me, the issue is not only the Vatican flag, its all the flags. Just to mention, someone of those flags have pentagram on them. Our daily Lord’s Prayer tells us that, “let it be done here on earth as it is done in heaven.” Question: Are there flags in heavenly church? Were there flags in the sanctuary at Moses time?
The scripture teaches us that we should always search the scriptures to make sure that what is done is according to the scriptures according to Acts 17:11
Where did the idea of flying flags came from? Are we going to fly flags in heaven or Paradise? Do we really need flags on our churches?
Jose Balverdi says
Con ese criterio, no se debería ondear la bandera de los EE UU, porque es la bestia de Apocalipsis 13: 11, de la bandera de ningún país protestante, que va a conformar la imagen de la bestia. y en realidad de ninguna bandera, porque todos los países conformaran finalmente la imagen de la bestia. El presidente fue claro cuando dijo que se refería a los países no alcanzados. No debemos confundir una cuestión política con una espiritual ( recordemos que el Vaticano es también un Estado político). Pasa lo mismo cuando los disidentes confunden una reunión de libertad de conciencia o religiosa; con una reunión ecuménica. ( con el solo fin de criticar a la iglesia). Ademas tengo entendido que dentro de las puertas del Vaticano hay una pequeña congregación adventista. Conozco a un pastor que predico ahí. Además como ciudadanos de ese país tienen el derecho de portar su bandera. No se les puede pedir que porten una bandera de otro país que no sea el suyo,
Gehaz says
I don’t think if the flag will be flawn in heaven
Emme Smith says
Each tribe had banners and symbols around the temple
Lp says
Flying the flag to dignify nations yet to be reached😫😩🥺 wake up. Would Israel have flown the Assyrian flag? Ever? On par with the bow to the pope when the Leadership joined other churches in celebrating him-did we give him a medallion or he give us one-was one or the other. So exactly what day will they think it’s time to stand against this satanic establishment? Sadly they’re full of their own importance and wisdom. No room in thrir puffed up pride for spiritual insight.
Iyakaremye Remy says
My friend we’re standing in the last days this means Jesus is coming we have to pray
Iyakaremye Remy says
Marik 13:14-15
14 But when ye shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, standing where it ought not, (let him that readeth understand,) then let them that be in Judaea flee to the mountains:
15 And let him that is on the housetop not go down into the house, neither enter therein, to take any thing out of his house:
Lydia Kirton says
I hear the explanation given by Pastor Wilson but there was no need to display the flags of unreached countries. The SDA Church has a unique mission in the 3 Angels Messages. The flying of the Vatican flag in a GC Session to me iwas very disrespectful to what we as a church believe. Yes we have to reach ALL people and institutions and we ca do this with prayerful evangelism, flying a flag to ‘show’ you are trying to reach the people or institution is NOT the way to go in my opinion.
Maggie Fahy-Pepper says
Agreed.
Samson Hayawi says
The Bible has already predicted on What is about to take place at the “END TIMES” so LET IT BE SO if what happened in this GC is True according to the President only Jesus Knows.
Daniel says
Hnos soy anciano y estudio el don profetico por ser adventista y a la luz de la palabra, esta muy mal que estemos permitiendo que ante un Dios celoso y fuerte se permita que el enemigo ondea su bandera dentro de territorio propio de Dios ,so pretexto de naciones no alcanzadas ,¿ donde dice ña profecia que la bestia se va a arrepentir y será alcanzada ,? Eso solo se lo cree alguien que no lee un escrito esta. Esto que vemos tienw un nombre y se llama: fornicacion espiritual.
Naboth says
An abomination of desolation standing on the holy ground. This has never happened before. We were handed for control to the pope. God have mercy to your church
Joycelyn says
From the time they replaced the the three angels symbol and was and is widely accepted and used as Adventist symbol even as we speak, that left the door open for anything else to creep in. Anything else including satanic appointments in service carried by human agencies. Like in Garden of Eden, great lessons are to be learnt, and like Christ, we ought to heed and abide by the Holy word of God in faith and obedience,It’s Written expresses God’s only Devine will. Be strong in the lord don’t be discouraged but be encouraged, don’t be scared but rather be prepared. God bless.
GEORGE CHAKHUTA says
It is a backsliding church that lessen itself with the papacy
Victoria says
If I’m not mistaken the last flags were said to be those of “countries “ not yet reached substantially. If that was true, then it would have been the flag of Rome to be carried, as it is deemed it’s own country. Not the Vatican’s. I’m so confused on what they’re doing but I believe theirs is the real confusion-Babylonian confusion. So sad.
Emme Smith says
Rome is the capital of Italy. It is not a country. Italy is not unreached. Vatican City is a country, but you cannot be born a citizen of Vatican City. You can only be granted citizenship. If you lose that citizenship, you automatically become a citizen of Italy. Therefore, everyone who is currently a citizen of Vatican City has or can gain citizenship in another country, thus there is no need to fly the Vatican flag to represent the unreached. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OPHRIjI3hXs
Christopher says
The flags listed have nothing to do with where the gospel has gone or not. They have everything to do with where the Corporation has franchise outlets. They’ll never properly have one in Vatican City. But the Vatican does hold the gospel in its hands, just not in its heart.
Dannie Baquero says
Oh my bothers and sister we had to be careful of what we share and criticized. We can be so ridiculous with the comments our utterances that is embarrassing! that is the Vatican city flag. Vatican is a country in Europe. This parade was a parade of all the nations in the world where the adventis has presence. This not a Roman catholic flag 😕 we need to focus in what is important and stop creating divisions which is what the enemy wants to create conflicts look here we are creating more drama and adding fuel to those who love to hit and damage our own we do have problems that needs to be fix from the inside out pray more and talk less and show the true character of Christ. What do you think that other denominations think abou us when they see this behavior on us !!!!!!!
Be cautious in your labors, brethren, not to assail the prejudices of the people too strongly. There should be no going out of the way to attack other denominations; for it only creates a combative spirit and closes ears and hearts to the entrance of the truth. We have our work to do, which is not to tear down, but to build up. We are to repair the breach that has been made in the law of God. It is the nobler work to build up; to present the truth in its force and power, and let it cut its way through prejudice, and reveal error in contrast with truth. There is danger that our ministers will say too much against the Catholics and provoke against themselves the strongest prejudices of that church. There are many souls in the Roman Catholic faith who are looking with interest to this people, but the power of the priest over his charge is great; and if he can prejudice the people by his stay-away arguments, so that when the truth is uttered against the fallen churches they may not hear it, he will surely do it. But as laborers together with God, we are provided with spiritual weapons, mighty to the pulling down of the strongholds of the enemy. 5LtMs, Lt 39, 1887, par. 19
Emme Smith says
The flag is correctly the flag of Vatican City the country/kingdom/sovereign nation state AND also the flag of the Roman Catholic church. It is also the flag of a business. It is not an ordinary county. No one is born a citizen of Vatican City, and if someone loses citizenship they can automatically become a citizen of Italy if necessary. This brief video explains it further. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OPHRIjI3hXs
Garry Holder says
SEVENTH DAY ADVENTIST CHURCH all uppercased is a corporation under the STATE. It has 83 corporations within its fold with 83 Trade Marks as of 2010 ‘Year Book’ printing. Look up “Theocracy” in the Spirit of Prophecy. It is not a CORPORATION. When E. G. White began her writing until her death, she never wrote to the People to preserve, and maintain a CORPORATION! She wrote her books to preserve the People’s standing, and understanding within a “Theocracy under God”. The Theocracy is what She is referring to, that looks like it shall fall, but it does not. The Theocracy is a Divine connection YHVH has made with human kind, “As though man had never fallen” GC 484 (1911). This Theocracy is a direct spiritual connection YHVH has with each individual at their consent.
The VATICAN INC. flag was first flown in the 1980 GENERAL CONFERENCE SESSION in DALLAS TEXAS, where I was in the orchestra. It was also the year that the sign to all Jesuits around the world, were NOTICED, that all PROTESTANT CHURCHES were then infiltrated by Jesuits.
It was also the year that the word “Only” was lifted from the 1st Fundamental Belief that was just before the word “statement”, leaving it open so that anything can be equal to the Bible as a standard of faith and practice, even the CATACHISM.
SDA INC not yet Babylon? Read the last paragraph of the chapter called “The Warning Rejected” in ‘Great Controversy’. That commission to give such a message to the world ended in 1926 when ‘Working Policy 075, section 1 was secretly installed behind the People’s back. See Website.
The Remnant church is named in 1 Timothy 3: 15 as “The pillar and ground of truth”. They are not attached to the world (Numbers 23: 9). They are not INCORPORATED under the “Eighth” beast of Revelation 17: 11. The Remnant Church is in the “Kingdom of his dear Son” ( Col. 1: 13), by faith in the Word of YHVH. See Luke 22: 29, 30; Luke 12: 31, 32. Why is the “Gospel of the kingdom” (Matt. 24: 14) not taught among the APOSTATE PROTESTANT “state” GC 383 (1911) INCORPORATED CHURCHES? Because the clergy do not want to testify against themselves and empty their religious corporations.
In the end, The kingdom of God “On earth as it is in heaven” Matt 6: 10, shall reign on earth, and every apostate incorporated protestant CHURCH shall be involved in 6 of the 7 last plagues of Revelation 16 so they can see and realize what they have done to the People, and what the People have done to themselves.
We have a choice! Enter the kingdom of YHVH (Isaiah 9: 6, 7) now, or continue to be a member of a religious corporation. YHVH will never allow His 3 messages with the power of the 4th (Revelation 18) be proclaimed through a religious corporation! Get that.
Who has read the 1893 “Third Angel’s Message” and know of it’s content? The book is for sale at un UCC INC. ABC, and College Place ABC. Buy it from Amazon, Laymans Ministries. That book does not explain the “eighth” beast, for that condition and truth had not fully come yet, but because the Righteousness by Faith message was rejected by the organization, the knowledge of the “Eighth” will never come except to those who search the truth according to Righteousness (Joel 2: 23).
Remember this: The ‘Boat’ we are to be in, is the Divine Theocracy/Kingdom of heaven, for which we are to enter NOW! That Church shall never ‘Fall”. We will never know what to “come out of” unless we know what to enter!
Dan says
Profound! Thanks for sharing.
Tui Aotearoa says
Apocalypse 13: 2,4, tells us clearly that the power and authority that is wielded by the Vatican comes directly from satan.
Apocalypse 17: 11, tells us clearly that this chappie who comes onto the stage as the 8th has already ruled previously; so when he appears on the Vatican stage as the 8th he is right on time fulfilling that verse 11, as this is his 2nd reign. ( read the whole verse fully )
There have been 7 Kings since the restoration of the Vatican as a separate autonomous sovereign state, inside Italy, by Mussolini in 1929
The Vatican Sovereign State is 108 acres in Geographic size. It is a state subject to no rule or regulation by Italy.
A similar parallel to it is the City State of Monaco within the borders of France. Monaco is a sovereign State, subject to no regulation whatsoever in the nation of France.
Now when Francis goes, Benedict will come back; his reign will not be friendly; Sunday enforcement is the objective.
Apocalypse 17: 12 these never receive a kingdom but they are given and wield power and authority AS KINGS for ONE HOUR.
ONE HOUR Prophetically is 15 days; Paris Climate Change Accord was 15 days: Saturday November 28th to Saturday December 12th 2015
Make no mistake: Prophecy is being literally fulfilled before our very eyes, and right under our noses !
These two last popes will not live too long; 12 o’clock is chiming, the 1st “gong” has sounded; “He that hath an ear to hear . . . ”
IF any one would like a full analysis of these Theological Proofs, Write to me at: PO Box 410, Flemington, Victoria, Australia, 3031.
PLEASE READ 5T 80, 81, Ezekiiel 9 the City is Our Church; and Jerusalem is the HQ of Israel; and that equates with the HQ of our world Church: ie the General Conference ! And every Church Division and Union Conference throughout the world equates with Jerusalem of Ezekiel 9. Every State Conference equates with Jerusalem. “He that hath an ear to hear . . . ”
NB NB NB 1 man only places the seal of Sanctification in the foreheads of the true saints ( these constitute the Final Remnant ).
There are 5 times more executioners going to work than the Man placing the seal of Sanctification,”He that hath an ear to hear . . . ”
Tui Aotearoa 21/06/2022/1931 hrs
Alric Prendergast says
The flag should never be included among the nations of flags, the Vatican City or state is not a country but a state which operates both inside and outside of the nation of Italy. The Vatican city is the political home of The Roman Catholic Church and is not a country and who would dare today do a Jonah on the Vatican city, at least Nineveh repented and the judgement of God was delayed for another generation, Jesus calls The Vatican Jezebel who refuses to repent in his message to the 4th church and the message of the angel in Revelation supported by the call from heaven is to call the people of Christ out of fallen spiritual Babylon, who are as much fallen as the fallen angels and will suffer specifically under one of the 7 last plagues. If a message is to be given to those who would flock the Vatican city, it is to be done outside of the religious political state, but not within the walls of the Vatican city, because one will not get very far soon arrested and thrown out of the city. Yes, the gospel is to go to the people of Italy who live outside of the Vatican city, I cannot see an organised evangelistic team go into the city and if the gospel is taken beyond the city walls, it will not be done directly like it is in other areas of going to make disciples and preaching publicly and to call the sinner to repentance while risking arrest great opposition and the same hatred and persecution which the people of God had during the dark ages.
While we are sorry for such an action, let us live in line with the words of this hymn
Do not wait until some greatness you can do, do not wait to shed your light afar
In the many duties you can do, brighten the corner where you are.
May we be light houses for Christ in our surrounding areas and where we frequent the most including the places we may visit occasionally.
Antoinette Vincent says
I’ve read comments and folks we are to focus on our own salvation with fear and trembling.
There are no perfect leaders neither followers. Let us not year down those in leadership. We cannot reached the unsaved if we are testing each other apart from within. The scripture is very clear on role of antichrist.
Let’s pray Ted Wilson and his team to make decision according to scripture and leave judging to the Lord
francis says
Why bother to fly flags in a god given event???
James Tautfest says
Clearly the Church of Rome has been reached as a corporate body. They are well aware of the SeventhDay Adventist Church and its’ Biblical stance. To say they have not been reached is untrue. Yet there are individuals within the system who need to hear the Gospel, not unlike the Jew. but, as a corporate body they are highly informed and aware.
lars k says
You are certainly right. But to begin with, worldly symbols should not be flaunted at Christian gatherings. Simple as that.
Antonio Marcelino da Silva says
Antes de ser pregada a verdade devemos viver a verdade
Quando a igreja se unir ao movimento ecumênico(papado)como lider a igreja adventista do sétimo dia dobrou os joelhos para o mundo e não o mundo para a igreja
Eventos finais
Jamais a igreja adventista deveria astear bandeira Papal