Comments on: A Most Important End-Time Sign: The Rise, Fall, and Restoration of the Temporal Power of the Papacy (Part 2) https://adventmessenger.org/a-most-important-end-time-sign-the-rise-fall-and-restoration-of-the-temporal-power-of-the-papacy-part-2/ News and commentary from a Biblical world view on current events, top stories, social trends and political and religious events. Mon, 14 Aug 2023 20:01:26 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.9.4 By: Silvia https://adventmessenger.org/a-most-important-end-time-sign-the-rise-fall-and-restoration-of-the-temporal-power-of-the-papacy-part-2/comment-page-1/#comment-34381 Mon, 06 Mar 2023 19:38:08 +0000 https://adventmessenger.org/?p=17513#comment-34381 The handwriting is one the wall. “He who has ears to hear, let him hear!” Matthew 11:15

]]> By: Jason https://adventmessenger.org/a-most-important-end-time-sign-the-rise-fall-and-restoration-of-the-temporal-power-of-the-papacy-part-2/comment-page-1/#comment-34304 Sun, 05 Mar 2023 01:08:49 +0000 https://adventmessenger.org/?p=17513#comment-34304 Very good history. I appreciate these two essays.

]]> By: John https://adventmessenger.org/a-most-important-end-time-sign-the-rise-fall-and-restoration-of-the-temporal-power-of-the-papacy-part-2/comment-page-1/#comment-34302 Sun, 05 Mar 2023 00:17:07 +0000 https://adventmessenger.org/?p=17513#comment-34302 Certainly Rome has not changed. Our only safety is to abide in the will of God and in the shadow of the Almighty.

]]> By: Henry https://adventmessenger.org/a-most-important-end-time-sign-the-rise-fall-and-restoration-of-the-temporal-power-of-the-papacy-part-2/comment-page-1/#comment-34299 Sat, 04 Mar 2023 22:33:01 +0000 https://adventmessenger.org/?p=17513#comment-34299 Thank you Andy for your efforts to keep us informed.

]]> By: Marie https://adventmessenger.org/a-most-important-end-time-sign-the-rise-fall-and-restoration-of-the-temporal-power-of-the-papacy-part-2/comment-page-1/#comment-34295 Sat, 04 Mar 2023 17:51:12 +0000 https://adventmessenger.org/?p=17513#comment-34295 I know people who say that Pope Francis doesn’t fit the prophetic profile, but it is clear that this Jesuit Pope knows what he is doing.

]]> By: Kevin B. Selby https://adventmessenger.org/a-most-important-end-time-sign-the-rise-fall-and-restoration-of-the-temporal-power-of-the-papacy-part-2/comment-page-1/#comment-34292 Sat, 04 Mar 2023 16:20:31 +0000 https://adventmessenger.org/?p=17513#comment-34292 Excellent two-part series!
A few points I would like to add that might help those folks that are new to these ideas.
1. Rome is definitely evil, but under the guise of “kindness” and all that blather. What we sometimes forget is that in Rome’s world-view, they can torture you in order to get you to embrace their “truth” AND THUS BE SAVED. So in THEIR eyes, the ends justify the means. If they have to torture you to “save your soul”, then that torture is justified.
2. I’m not sure enough is being said about false tongues, false healings, and literal false worship. As a musician, I have watched in dismay as the modern worship has well nigh taken over the protestant churches AS WELL AS THE SDA CHURCH (there, I said it!). This worship style is repetitive, hypnotic, full of a bedlam of noise (usually…but not always), and the words are simplistic and usually worshipful of SELF and not of God. The recent outbreak of this phenomena at Asbury is, in my opinion, indicative of what will happen at the end when all the churches will claim that THEY have the Spirit of God because of all the “miracles” (again, false tongues, false healings, false manifestations of the Spirit). And thus, people will be deluded by their eyes and ears into thinking that these false churches (the daughters of Babylon – the protestant churches who have fallen) have “the truth” and should be followed. At that point, it will be easy to unite protestant with catholic because they will all unite on “feelings” and “manifestations” and NOT the pure word of God and the Spirit of Prophecy.
3. A small word about “the church”. While it is true that the wheat and tares grow together, we have to have discernment as to what exactly is a “tare”? A tare looks nearly indistinguishable from the wheat. To me, the folks in the SDA church who are apostate are NOT tares. They do not LOOK like wheat. They look like literal apostates (and should not be listened to, nor followed, nor supported). The tares will look like the true wheat, but will not have died to self and when the persecution comes, they will fall away. Similar to the 10 virgins. They ALL fell asleep (yes brothers and sisters, WE have fallen asleep, but it’s time to wake up). And when the ones that will be lost discern that their lamps have no oil, they go out to the world and the false churches to get that oil (of the Spirit) and guess what?…the world and the false churches are ready to give them that false oil (false tongues, false healings, false manifestations of the Spirit). So to ME, God’s true remnant Church is NOT the buildings, nor the hierarchical structure of the SDA church (that literally mimics Rome and which we were WARNED ABOUT NOT TO DO), but it is simply the people who do His will. I realize there is a giant argument today as to “who and what is the Church”, but again, to my eyes, it’s obvious that the current SDA church structure/hierarchy is NOT God’s Church any longer. I’m willing to be wrong on this and am continuing to pray and WATCH, but as each day goes by, she isn’t getting any better folks, but is instead reaching her hand out to Rome and the daughters of Babylon. Luckily for me, I was not born an SDA nor did I grow up in the Church, and so I do not have a mind block that some might have where they think an apostate church that is OBVIOUSLY fallen is somehow still going to “go through”.

Sorry if this steps on toes, but I simply cannot see how it can be any other way unless some MIGHTY reformation sweeps through and basically destroys the SDA hierarchy (which it would have to if it is to be real) and God’s people take BACK their churches and start following the truth again.
The final thing that kind of showed me what was going on was the response of the SDA church to the entire scamdemic/plandemic. We had Sunday keeping churches in our area that REFUSED to follow ANY commandment of men on this topic and somehow were left alone, meanwhile, the local SDA churches followed mankind’s dictates and closed down. Shameful, truly shameful. Are we to obey man, or God?

]]> By: Amari https://adventmessenger.org/a-most-important-end-time-sign-the-rise-fall-and-restoration-of-the-temporal-power-of-the-papacy-part-2/comment-page-1/#comment-34290 Sat, 04 Mar 2023 16:13:04 +0000 https://adventmessenger.org/?p=17513#comment-34290 Thanks for the historic references. It helps to see through the false illusions being portrayed by the ecumenical movement.

]]> By: Darrell V Kleckley https://adventmessenger.org/a-most-important-end-time-sign-the-rise-fall-and-restoration-of-the-temporal-power-of-the-papacy-part-2/comment-page-1/#comment-34272 Sat, 04 Mar 2023 03:06:04 +0000 https://adventmessenger.org/?p=17513#comment-34272 You nailed it sir!

]]> By: Lewin+Mellinese https://adventmessenger.org/a-most-important-end-time-sign-the-rise-fall-and-restoration-of-the-temporal-power-of-the-papacy-part-2/comment-page-1/#comment-34264 Fri, 03 Mar 2023 20:23:29 +0000 https://adventmessenger.org/?p=17513#comment-34264 Thanks for ending on that note. We can trust God that He will empower and enable those who will go all the way with His will. Blessed be the name of the Lord. Blessed love.

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