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		By: Andy Roman		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Andy Roman]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Oct 2023 12:55:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://adventmessenger.org/an-adventist-pastor-was-recently-appointed-to-lead-an-ecumenical-group-whose-mission-is-to-achieve-the-visible-unity-of-the-churches/comment-page-1/#comment-47616&quot;&gt;Jasper St.Rose&lt;/a&gt;.

“Free Churches” in the European context means that they are not financially supported by the state and include Baptists, Adventists, Pentecostals and others. Europe still has official “state churches.”]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://adventmessenger.org/an-adventist-pastor-was-recently-appointed-to-lead-an-ecumenical-group-whose-mission-is-to-achieve-the-visible-unity-of-the-churches/comment-page-1/#comment-47616">Jasper St.Rose</a>.</p>
<p>“Free Churches” in the European context means that they are not financially supported by the state and include Baptists, Adventists, Pentecostals and others. Europe still has official “state churches.”</p>
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		By: Jasper St.Rose		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jasper St.Rose]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Oct 2023 11:38:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[What is the meaning of the term &quot; free adventist church &quot; ?? , what is a &quot;free adventist&quot;?? 

I noticed these so called sda pastors were pastors of &quot;free adventist&quot; churches. The article didn&#039;t didn&#039;t say , seventh-day adventist church]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What is the meaning of the term &#8221; free adventist church &#8221; ?? , what is a &#8220;free adventist&#8221;?? </p>
<p>I noticed these so called sda pastors were pastors of &#8220;free adventist&#8221; churches. The article didn&#8217;t didn&#8217;t say , seventh-day adventist church</p>
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		By: Thomas		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Thomas]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Oct 2023 16:02:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://adventmessenger.org/an-adventist-pastor-was-recently-appointed-to-lead-an-ecumenical-group-whose-mission-is-to-achieve-the-visible-unity-of-the-churches/comment-page-1/#comment-47148&quot;&gt;YesMsJane&lt;/a&gt;.

I agree - it starts with not calling sin by it&#039;s name - denying the power of God to overcome. The SOP which does call us out and admonishes us to overcome is then rejected - and then even the bible is doubted. I joined the official german facebook group of SDA&#039;s and this is exactly what I encountered. In any discussion, if one mentions the SOP or Ellen G. White, one is attacked by several others  - they mock Ellen G. White and the SOP - they think that Paul and Moses&#039;s writings were not really inspired and flawed due to lack of their knowledge - they never say thus says the Lord but twist and interpret the bible according to their desires. One really wonders why these people wish to call themselves SDA&#039;s. There are those who still believe in SOP and our pillars of faith but they are mostly quiet on that platform due to the persecution that occurs from within if you believe the good old way.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://adventmessenger.org/an-adventist-pastor-was-recently-appointed-to-lead-an-ecumenical-group-whose-mission-is-to-achieve-the-visible-unity-of-the-churches/comment-page-1/#comment-47148">YesMsJane</a>.</p>
<p>I agree &#8211; it starts with not calling sin by it&#8217;s name &#8211; denying the power of God to overcome. The SOP which does call us out and admonishes us to overcome is then rejected &#8211; and then even the bible is doubted. I joined the official german facebook group of SDA&#8217;s and this is exactly what I encountered. In any discussion, if one mentions the SOP or Ellen G. White, one is attacked by several others  &#8211; they mock Ellen G. White and the SOP &#8211; they think that Paul and Moses&#8217;s writings were not really inspired and flawed due to lack of their knowledge &#8211; they never say thus says the Lord but twist and interpret the bible according to their desires. One really wonders why these people wish to call themselves SDA&#8217;s. There are those who still believe in SOP and our pillars of faith but they are mostly quiet on that platform due to the persecution that occurs from within if you believe the good old way.</p>
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		By: YesMsJane		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[YesMsJane]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Sep 2023 09:25:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Have seen multiple GC pastors in SDA churches across NSW Australia making Unity their big issue, they aren&#039;t getting this idea from the Bible or SOP,

Often wondered who has bewitched them? 

How does one go from exposing the man of sin and the sins of Babylon to pushing their very agendas?

Found it to be the pastors who have invibed the new theology errors, they deny God&#039;s power to help people get victory over Sin,

Then they become capable of anything.


Amos 3:3&quot;can two walk together except they be agreed?&quot;

{&quot;If unity could be secured only by the compromise of truth and righteousness, then let there be difference, and even war.&quot; GC88 44.2 }

“When the Saviour saw in the Jewish people a nation divorced from God, 

He saw also a professed Christian Church united to the world and the papacy. 

And as He stood upon Olivet, weeping over Jerusalem till the sun sank behind the western hills, so He is weeping over and pleading with sinners in these last moments of time” (Review and Herald, October 8, 1901)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Have seen multiple GC pastors in SDA churches across NSW Australia making Unity their big issue, they aren&#8217;t getting this idea from the Bible or SOP,</p>
<p>Often wondered who has bewitched them? </p>
<p>How does one go from exposing the man of sin and the sins of Babylon to pushing their very agendas?</p>
<p>Found it to be the pastors who have invibed the new theology errors, they deny God&#8217;s power to help people get victory over Sin,</p>
<p>Then they become capable of anything.</p>
<p>Amos 3:3&#8243;can two walk together except they be agreed?&#8221;</p>
<p>{&#8220;If unity could be secured only by the compromise of truth and righteousness, then let there be difference, and even war.&#8221; GC88 44.2 }</p>
<p>“When the Saviour saw in the Jewish people a nation divorced from God, </p>
<p>He saw also a professed Christian Church united to the world and the papacy. </p>
<p>And as He stood upon Olivet, weeping over Jerusalem till the sun sank behind the western hills, so He is weeping over and pleading with sinners in these last moments of time” (Review and Herald, October 8, 1901)</p>
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		By: HM		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[HM]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Sep 2023 09:02:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[We must call people out. Who are these people working for? ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We must call people out. Who are these people working for? </p>
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		By: Lisa		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lisa]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Sep 2023 02:50:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[He needs to make a choice between Christ or Antichrist. You can&#039;t serve two masters.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He needs to make a choice between Christ or Antichrist. You can&#8217;t serve two masters.</p>
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		By: John D.		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John D.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Sep 2023 02:48:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[He is only another mole in a sea of others.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He is only another mole in a sea of others.</p>
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		By: Maire		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Maire]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Sep 2023 00:49:46 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[No true SDA would accept this position because it means he would lead out in healing the deadly wound.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No true SDA would accept this position because it means he would lead out in healing the deadly wound.</p>
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