Comments on: An Attack Against Conrad Vine is An Attack Against All Faithful Seventh-day Adventists https://adventmessenger.org/an-attack-against-conrad-vine-is-an-attack-against-all-faithful-seventh-day-adventists/ News and commentary from a Biblical world view on current events, top stories, social trends and political and religious events. Sun, 15 Dec 2024 11:55:09 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.9.4 By: Terry Atkins https://adventmessenger.org/an-attack-against-conrad-vine-is-an-attack-against-all-faithful-seventh-day-adventists/comment-page-1/#comment-68800 Sun, 15 Dec 2024 11:55:09 +0000 https://adventmessenger.org/?p=21351#comment-68800 In reply to Present Truth Studies.

I cannot see as many who protest at the LDS Mormon General Conference.
Placards and posters are displayed freely objecting to church history and the book of Mormon.
I cannot see Seventh-day Adventists employees, GC Personell, Conference workers rallying at our General Conference meetings displaying strong opposition to the Pastor Ron Kelly and Dr. Conrad Vine issues and other topics that have been raised recently. Our brethren are simply careful in controversy as to hinder the monthly pay cheque.

]]> By: Abell Rodma https://adventmessenger.org/an-attack-against-conrad-vine-is-an-attack-against-all-faithful-seventh-day-adventists/comment-page-1/#comment-68760 Sat, 14 Dec 2024 22:06:17 +0000 https://adventmessenger.org/?p=21351#comment-68760 Lo que más preocupa es el silencio de los buenos… Hay muchos, en diferentes partes del mundo, siendo tratados como han tratado al Dr. Conrad Vine, hay muchos siendo cancelados en sus iglesias y asociaciones, siendo acusados falsamente, sin tener derecho a defenderse…

NO NOS SORPRENDE, sabiamos que esto llegaría en este tiempo, PERO DIOS ESTA AL CONTROL Y PONDRA LAS COSAS EN ORDEN, NO DESMAYEN HERMANOS, SIGAMOS ORANDO Y CLAMANDO

MARANATHA CRISTO VIENE

]]> By: David Wesley https://adventmessenger.org/an-attack-against-conrad-vine-is-an-attack-against-all-faithful-seventh-day-adventists/comment-page-1/#comment-68492 Wed, 11 Dec 2024 20:55:16 +0000 https://adventmessenger.org/?p=21351#comment-68492 This kind of stuff goes on in ALL conferences.
It doesn’t do any good to bring anything to the conference attention about how the PEOPLE (members) of the conference feel about the way things are going. People think Conference officials are perfect and do no wrong. FAR from the truth. But Church Politics are going strong with doing whatever suits them and whoever they want to put in office. There are church officials who shouldn’t be in charge. I’ve been in this church all my life (77 years old) and NO ONE is going to keep me from saying what I have to say or keep me out of my church.
They better have a Armed Guard if they plan on keeping me out.

]]> By: Fred Holtjer https://adventmessenger.org/an-attack-against-conrad-vine-is-an-attack-against-all-faithful-seventh-day-adventists/comment-page-1/#comment-63013 Thu, 26 Sep 2024 19:06:32 +0000 https://adventmessenger.org/?p=21351#comment-63013 In reply to Thabo.

Amen!

]]> By: Thabo https://adventmessenger.org/an-attack-against-conrad-vine-is-an-attack-against-all-faithful-seventh-day-adventists/comment-page-1/#comment-62935 Wed, 25 Sep 2024 13:32:37 +0000 https://adventmessenger.org/?p=21351#comment-62935 If we were to say we know how God works, we would be lying. This Apostasy has been going on for ages and God has been quiet. We have the likes of BJ Wilkinson, Andreasen and many more who challenged the heresy and Apostasy planted by Rome in our church and they were all marginalized. Some went into their Graves broken hearted because of their unfaithful brothers. Until the laity wakes up and see our leadership for what they are, we will step by step head to Babylon. The fight happening at GC level is happening in many local churches. Those who stand up for the truth are silenced.

Everyone has a work appointed them and it would serve us well to do it faithfully. If you prove unfaithful, you will get your reward, but when you assault the watchmen, you assault God’s truth and you will not win. No one is going to stop this protest. You can be for it or against it but there is no middle ground. Christians have one leader that leader is Jesus Christ.Hirelings will be exposed very soon.God’s truth is marching on. Stay blessed brethren.

]]> By: Fred Holtjer https://adventmessenger.org/an-attack-against-conrad-vine-is-an-attack-against-all-faithful-seventh-day-adventists/comment-page-1/#comment-62806 Sun, 22 Sep 2024 19:13:10 +0000 https://adventmessenger.org/?p=21351#comment-62806 I can assure you that the church is very sick, including the group that talks about the underground church. An entire group in our local church who call themselves conservative Adventists have spread such vicious lies about me that my family and I have also been expelled from our own local church. We are fifth generation Adventists and have made enemies within the church for upholding Adventist (biblical) values, as Conrad Vine always does, and some church members do not appreciate that. Then your words, your motives, and everything else you do becomes so twisted that you no longer have a life within the church. This is what is happening now with Conrad Vine. With us it was Lightchannel Nederland that got the upper hand in the church and set up a series of lies with other members. When they get the majority, you are lost. The church is not a safe place anymore.
Message from the Netherlands.

]]> By: Alfresco C https://adventmessenger.org/an-attack-against-conrad-vine-is-an-attack-against-all-faithful-seventh-day-adventists/comment-page-1/#comment-62779 Sun, 22 Sep 2024 00:06:17 +0000 https://adventmessenger.org/?p=21351#comment-62779 Sad I have been learning many things with rev. Conrrad Vine

]]> By: Arlette Andrews https://adventmessenger.org/an-attack-against-conrad-vine-is-an-attack-against-all-faithful-seventh-day-adventists/comment-page-1/#comment-62778 Sat, 21 Sep 2024 23:39:20 +0000 https://adventmessenger.org/?p=21351#comment-62778 Did God know in advance that Adam would sin or did it catch Him by surprise?
Did He know that His chosen people Israel would apostatize or did it catch Him by surprise?
When God showed Ezekiel the apostasy of the leaders of the temple did He know it would happen in advance or did it take Him by surprise?
What did God do? He sent prophets to preach repentance. Anything preached beyond that is not from God.
Many SDAs are acting like Uzzah, trying to help God’s ark from falling, but earned God’s wrath instead. Just like God had the power then to prevent the ark from falling, He has the power now to prevent the church from falling. All these controversies in the church should drive us to our knees, to fasting and deeper study of the scriptures.
We do not fight against flesh and blood so it is futile to fight against flesh and blood to gain spiritual victory.

]]> By: Eric Doering https://adventmessenger.org/an-attack-against-conrad-vine-is-an-attack-against-all-faithful-seventh-day-adventists/comment-page-1/#comment-62776 Sat, 21 Sep 2024 23:19:20 +0000 https://adventmessenger.org/?p=21351#comment-62776 In reply to Present Truth Studies.

A petition only does good when it is directed to faithful leaders who seek to serve the people whom they represent. However, a petition for fairness would not be necessary in the first place if the first thought of the leadership was to be servants of the Most-High God. Consider, for example, how many times did the apostles bring petitions to Christ signed by the people? The only petitions that I can recall from Scripture that a faithful leader received were petitions from a world loving people that went contrary to the will of God. The petition to Samuel for a king comes to mind. Unfaithful leaders will simply scoff at petitions for fairness.

The same goes for demonstrations. While I agree that most will not come forward out of fear, petitions and demonstrations are not the tools of God’s choosing for the implementation of change. He calls for us to know him, that he is YHWH, to be his people so that He may be our God, and to return to Him with all our heart (Jer 24:7). This is his call given through Jeremiah to us living in the present time… specifically prior to the implementation of God’s judgement against the false religious systems of the world known as Babylon. The time is at hand. Those institutions who have joined themselves to the Babylonian system are making their position clear. Equally clear should be the evidences of our individual choices to come out of Babylon; not by the power of our petitions and demonstrations, but by the power of Jehovah which may only be given to those who know the only true God.

And this is life eternal, that they might know thee, the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom thou hast sent. John 17:3

Regarding the fear of the people to come forward and do what is right before God (not demonstrations) regardless of the consequences, this is another of the symptoms revealing to us where we stand. Fear flourishes in the absence of faith. This is why the fearful are at the head of the list of those that will not inherit the kingdom of God.

Revelation 21:7-8 He that overcometh shall inherit all things; and I will be his God, and he shall be my son. (8) But the FEARFUL, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.

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