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	Comments on: Catholics Argue that Adventist Teachings are Incorrect and that Sunday Should be Protected by Public Authorities Since it is the Day of Rest	</title>
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		By: Legese shumi		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Legese shumi]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Aug 2024 04:30:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Continue you have to teach present truth.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Continue you have to teach present truth.</p>
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		By: John Hudiburgh		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John Hudiburgh]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Aug 2024 02:00:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[God said &quot;the seventh day is the Sabbath of the LORD thy God&quot; (Exodus 20:10), He is the highest authority in heaven or earth.  Whatever contradicts Him proceeds from Satan.  &quot;Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.&quot; &quot;And hereby we do know that we know him, if we keep his commandments. He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.&quot; 1 John 2:3. 4.  The great Reformers were UNANIMOUS in their conviction that the papacy is the anti-Christ.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>God said &#8220;the seventh day is the Sabbath of the LORD thy God&#8221; (Exodus 20:10), He is the highest authority in heaven or earth.  Whatever contradicts Him proceeds from Satan.  &#8220;Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.&#8221; &#8220;And hereby we do know that we know him, if we keep his commandments. He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.&#8221; 1 John 2:3. 4.  The great Reformers were UNANIMOUS in their conviction that the papacy is the anti-Christ.</p>
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		By: Erich Schultze		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Erich Schultze]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Aug 2024 19:59:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Thank you for the good explanation showing the difference between the shadow Sabbaths and the 7th day Sabbath. Why is there no explanation and correction from the SDA leadership?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for the good explanation showing the difference between the shadow Sabbaths and the 7th day Sabbath. Why is there no explanation and correction from the SDA leadership?</p>
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		By: John the Revelator		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John the Revelator]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Aug 2024 18:30:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;The festivals, new moons, and annual Sabbaths (Day of Atonement, Passover, and Feasts of Tabernacles)&quot; 

Are you suggesting that Holy Spirit inspired Paul &quot;to double mention&quot; feasts (for the first time in word &#039;festivals&#039;, second time in &#039;Sabbaths&#039; which you refer to as annual)? 

In OT there is common &quot;rhytm&quot; = weekly-monthly-yearly. Apostle was quoting from 1 Chronicles 23:31, 2 Chronicles 8:13, 2 Chronicles 31:3, and Nehemiah 10:33, and 2 Chronicles 2:4. Each of these texts uses the same wording, “Sabbaths, new moons, feasts. So is NT Greek text. Paul actually approves this rhytm, thus even feasts/holy days for Christians.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The festivals, new moons, and annual Sabbaths (Day of Atonement, Passover, and Feasts of Tabernacles)&#8221; </p>
<p>Are you suggesting that Holy Spirit inspired Paul &#8220;to double mention&#8221; feasts (for the first time in word &#8216;festivals&#8217;, second time in &#8216;Sabbaths&#8217; which you refer to as annual)? </p>
<p>In OT there is common &#8220;rhytm&#8221; = weekly-monthly-yearly. Apostle was quoting from 1 Chronicles 23:31, 2 Chronicles 8:13, 2 Chronicles 31:3, and Nehemiah 10:33, and 2 Chronicles 2:4. Each of these texts uses the same wording, “Sabbaths, new moons, feasts. So is NT Greek text. Paul actually approves this rhytm, thus even feasts/holy days for Christians.</p>
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		By: Kevin		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kevin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Aug 2024 17:49:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Hmm, such confusion of Col. 2:16 ON BOTH SIDES. Also, in Leviticus 23:37, 38 the word &quot;beside&quot; there means &quot;in addition to&quot; and it&#039;s talking about the sacrifices. The number of sacrifices performed on the Sabbath are &quot;in addition to&quot; the daily sacrifices and the other high Sabbaths when they occur on the same day. 

Berean Standard Bible: &quot;These offerings are in addition to the offerings for the LORD’s Sabbaths, and in addition to your gifts, to all your vow offerings, and to all the freewill offerings you give to the LORD.&quot; (Lev. 23:38). 

Also, why is it that Adventists overlook the fact that Isaiah 66 also mentions the new moon along with the Sabbath? If &quot;The weekly Sabbath is also portrayed in the Bible as an eternal institution, one that transcends time and extends into the new earth&quot;, doesn&#039;t that mean the same for the new moon it mentions? 

The fact is, Col. 2:16 is NOT speaking against the Festivals of God. Paul is combatting the esoteric heresy of refraining from simple &quot;eating and drinking&quot; upon these days. He&#039;s NOT referring to ceremonial meat and drink offerings here! He&#039;s counselling the believers to not allow others OUTSIDE THE CHURCH judge them for &quot;partaking in&quot; (Gr. meros) the Festivals. 

All the Festivals, including the seventh-day Sabbath, all point to past, present and FUTURE fulfillment. In regard to the seventh-day Sabbath, it not only points back to Creation and our current salvation (rest) in Christ, but to the future 1,000-year millennium rest and our recreation.  

Instead of looking at Col. 2:16 as a way to &quot;prove&quot; ideologies AGAINST keeping God&#039;s Festivals (including the seventh-day Sabbath), we need to start applying its true intent being one of the places in the NT which speaks in FAVOR of keeping them!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmm, such confusion of Col. 2:16 ON BOTH SIDES. Also, in Leviticus 23:37, 38 the word &#8220;beside&#8221; there means &#8220;in addition to&#8221; and it&#8217;s talking about the sacrifices. The number of sacrifices performed on the Sabbath are &#8220;in addition to&#8221; the daily sacrifices and the other high Sabbaths when they occur on the same day. </p>
<p>Berean Standard Bible: &#8220;These offerings are in addition to the offerings for the LORD’s Sabbaths, and in addition to your gifts, to all your vow offerings, and to all the freewill offerings you give to the LORD.&#8221; (Lev. 23:38). </p>
<p>Also, why is it that Adventists overlook the fact that Isaiah 66 also mentions the new moon along with the Sabbath? If &#8220;The weekly Sabbath is also portrayed in the Bible as an eternal institution, one that transcends time and extends into the new earth&#8221;, doesn&#8217;t that mean the same for the new moon it mentions? </p>
<p>The fact is, Col. 2:16 is NOT speaking against the Festivals of God. Paul is combatting the esoteric heresy of refraining from simple &#8220;eating and drinking&#8221; upon these days. He&#8217;s NOT referring to ceremonial meat and drink offerings here! He&#8217;s counselling the believers to not allow others OUTSIDE THE CHURCH judge them for &#8220;partaking in&#8221; (Gr. meros) the Festivals. </p>
<p>All the Festivals, including the seventh-day Sabbath, all point to past, present and FUTURE fulfillment. In regard to the seventh-day Sabbath, it not only points back to Creation and our current salvation (rest) in Christ, but to the future 1,000-year millennium rest and our recreation.  </p>
<p>Instead of looking at Col. 2:16 as a way to &#8220;prove&#8221; ideologies AGAINST keeping God&#8217;s Festivals (including the seventh-day Sabbath), we need to start applying its true intent being one of the places in the NT which speaks in FAVOR of keeping them!</p>
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		By: James Tierney		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[James Tierney]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Aug 2024 02:20:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[By the way, the testimony say that the Catholics would be awakened to seventh day Adventist by the fallen protestants. So if they are already commenting about us in this way, wouldn’t that mean that we’re already passed that time in the testimonies?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>By the way, the testimony say that the Catholics would be awakened to seventh day Adventist by the fallen protestants. So if they are already commenting about us in this way, wouldn’t that mean that we’re already passed that time in the testimonies?</p>
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		By: James Tierney		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[James Tierney]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Aug 2024 02:18:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[But brother Randy, may I point out the obvious? If we are so close to the Sunday law, then shouldn’t it be obvious that we must be in the time of the eighth king already? Or are you claiming that The eighth king Or kingdom, as you claim, only exists for the time after probation?
Pope Francis is the last pope and I hope you wake up because it would be a shame for you to put all this effort into working on God side only to sleep through the end.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But brother Randy, may I point out the obvious? If we are so close to the Sunday law, then shouldn’t it be obvious that we must be in the time of the eighth king already? Or are you claiming that The eighth king Or kingdom, as you claim, only exists for the time after probation?<br />
Pope Francis is the last pope and I hope you wake up because it would be a shame for you to put all this effort into working on God side only to sleep through the end.</p>
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		By: Jay		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jay]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Aug 2024 08:52:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The beast and the image will &quot;deceive those who dwell on the earth&quot; (Revelation 13:14), so do not drink the cool aid.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The beast and the image will &#8220;deceive those who dwell on the earth&#8221; (Revelation 13:14), so do not drink the cool aid.</p>
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		By: Andy Roman		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Andy Roman]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Aug 2024 06:10:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://adventmessenger.org/catholics-argue-that-adventist-teachings-are-incorrect-and-that-sunday-should-be-protected-by-public-authorities-since-it-is-the-day-of-rest/comment-page-1/#comment-60294&quot;&gt;Sharon Slevin&lt;/a&gt;.

There certainly isn&#039;t anything wrong with setting the record straight. He deceives himself and others. You can certainly share your thoughts with him at: karlo.broussard@dioceseoftulsa.org

Even if he doesn&#039;t listen, the seeds of truth have been planted and it&#039;s up the the Holy Spirit to work on his heart.

“Deal faithfully with wrong-doing. Warn every soul that is in danger. Leave none to deceive themselves. Call sin by its right name. Declare what God has said in regard to lying, Sabbath-breaking, stealing, idolatry, and every other evil. “They which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.” GW 52]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://adventmessenger.org/catholics-argue-that-adventist-teachings-are-incorrect-and-that-sunday-should-be-protected-by-public-authorities-since-it-is-the-day-of-rest/comment-page-1/#comment-60294">Sharon Slevin</a>.</p>
<p>There certainly isn&#8217;t anything wrong with setting the record straight. He deceives himself and others. You can certainly share your thoughts with him at: <a href="mailto:karlo.broussard@dioceseoftulsa.org">karlo.broussard@dioceseoftulsa.org</a></p>
<p>Even if he doesn&#8217;t listen, the seeds of truth have been planted and it&#8217;s up the the Holy Spirit to work on his heart.</p>
<p>“Deal faithfully with wrong-doing. Warn every soul that is in danger. Leave none to deceive themselves. Call sin by its right name. Declare what God has said in regard to lying, Sabbath-breaking, stealing, idolatry, and every other evil. “They which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.” GW 52</p>
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