Amen brother

I would like to respond to you in your comment section to remind you a number of couple of facts. You should always bear in mind, the book Testimonies to Ministers was never written by Ellen. G.White, because it was written by General Conference leaders in 1923. The reason is because Ellen .G. White had died in 1915. The book was composed as a compilation of Mrs.Whites .Also it’s also important to note that there sare other books that were not written such as Adventist Home; 1,2,3 selected messages. The first volume of 1sm 2sm were written by general conference leaders.

Inorder , to hoodwink the S.D.A christians they quote the selected messages volume 2 which was written in 1958, that the church does not fall. Remember Ellen .White wrote in Bern Swirtzerland letter 55, that the church can fall . These leaders devised a clever strategy after destroying the foundation of S.D.A faith, so they removed the first four paragraphs of the letter which said; that the church does not fall.The foundation of S.D.A church was destroyed in 1957, after Donald Grey Barnhouse, and Walter Martins engaged in affair with S.D.A general conference leaders like Le Roy Froom; Roy Anderson; T.E. Unruh compromised the S.D.A faith so, that they would not be labeled as a cult.

By 1957, many people started forming the independent ministries within the Seventh Day Adventists and therefore it was important to seperate from apostacy that was creeping inside the S.D.A Church, therefore ,being a member of S.D.A does not guarantee any one salvation.So ,many people are deceived that they are going to be saved in the NEW S.D.A organization , which Ellen White had warned about. I myself I am a Seventh Day Adventist, however i am not affiliated to the General Conference which has decided to apostatize.

Well thought out response to argue why the SDA Church cannot nor never will become Babylon. Here are a couple more facts that should help bolster the case.

1. Define precisely what is the meaning of Babylon. Most will say confusion to which you reply confusion over what specifically? TM 61.3 gives a precise four fold identification of what constitutes Babylon that proves that it cannot be the SDA Church. In at nutshell a) Sunday sacredness, b) immortality of the soul, c) eternal burning hell, and d) denial of the existence of Christ prior to the virgin birth. These and kindred errors are what identifies the fallen churches of Babylon. Even the most liberal SDA does not promote these doctrines.

2. The SDA church is identified in scripture as Laodicea, not Babylon. We are in an even worse condition that Babylon because of the enhanced light that has been given us and we had not made proper use of it. The word Laodicean is a compound Greek word that literally means a people declaring judgment. There is no other church with a judgment hour message as specified in the 3 AM in Rev. 14.

3. The compilation Testimonies to Ministers pp. 32-63 is an open and clear warning against those who call the SDA church Babylon. Are we going to ignore these and make up some bogus argument about the church being the daughter of Babylon? Doesn’t harmonize. You can’t claim to believe in the SOP and then pick and choose which portions suit your preconceived ideas.

“it seems to him he is not aware that S.D.A church is fallen into the Babylon,”

I agree with you mostly, but especially your overall position. However, I think when making this statement, we have to be make sure we are clear in this point.

We have to remember the principle of a church; the church are God’s people, who love him and keep His Commandments. It is not a denomination, or institution, nor a cathedral or a building, or the leadership alone.

According to your overall point, you are referring to the structural leadership. I agree with this point. However, there are those amongst God’s people( church), who have bowed the knee to baal. Also, they are working to influence all to do the same. I agree that after you have rebuked or reproved them and yet they refuse to repent, then the best thing is to warn others about them and separate from their influence.

We have to make sure we are judicious with our words so we don’t add to the confusion.

Not one of us will ever receive the seal of God while our characters have one spot or stain upon them. It is left with us to remedy the defects in our characters, to cleanse the soul temple of every defilement. 5T 214.2

“And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God.”
‭‭Romans‬ ‭12‬:‭2‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“Examine yourselves, whether ye be in the faith; prove your own selves. Know ye not your own selves, how that Jesus Christ is in you, except ye be reprobates?”
‭‭2 Corinthians‬ ‭13‬:‭5‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“Wherefore, my beloved, as ye have always obeyed, not as in my presence only, but now much more in my absence, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling. For it is God which worketh in you both to will and to do of his good pleasure.”
‭‭Philippians‬ ‭2‬:‭12‬-‭13‬ ‭KJV‬‬

Brother Samuel,
1. I agree with you that there is apostasy in the Church, such as ecumenism, poor logo with absence of the 3 angels, conformity to worldy practices, sabbath school programme subtly diverting members from present truth, rampant false doctrines (eg the fatal belief that it is impossible to overcome sin, or that prophecies have multiple interpretations), ADCOMs, yielding to lies during the covid and encouraging poisonous injections, unlawful dismissal or censoring of faithful ministers (Conrad Vine, Ron Kelly), financial scandals, ADRA no longer allowed to evangelise, Spirit of Prophecy made of none effect (as prophesied), ordination of women etc and it is a very sad state of affairs.
2. I disagree with you that the Church has become part of Babylon, based on the Spirit of Prophecy. The quotes below (point 4) tell us that apostasy must happen. God will do the shaking. 2 Cor 6 “be ye separate” is a warning for the Church not to mix with the world (ecumenism, inter religious movement, United Nations (modern version of Babel)).
3. In my humble opinion, we should probably not be too fixated on the trinity issue, as it may be a decoy. The Spirit of Prophecy tells us that the 2 threats are spiritualism and false sabbath. If there was an additional major risk, we would have been alerted: “Surely the Lord GOD will do nothing, but he revealeth his secret unto his servants the prophets.”Amos‬ ‭3‬:‭7‬ ‭KJV‬‬. Through the two (NOT THREE) great errors, the immortality of the soul and Sunday sacredness, Satan will bring the people under his deceptions. GC 588.1
4. quotes indicating that the Church will never be a part of Babylon:

The church may APPEAR as about to fall, but it does not fall. It remains, while the sinners in Zion WILL BE sifted out—the chaff separated from the precious wheat. This is a terrible ordeal, but nevertheless it must take place.—Selected Messages 2:380 (1886). LDE 180.5
I know that the Lord loves His church. It is NOT to be disorganized or broken up into independent atoms. LDE 51.3
Divisions WILL COME in the church. Two parties WILL BE developed. The wheat and tares grow up together for the harvest.—Selected Messages 2:114 (1896). . LDE 172.3

The Lord has had a church from that day, through all the changing scenes of time to the present period, 1893. The Bible sets before us a model church. They are to be in unity with each other, and with God. When believers are united to Christ, the living vine, the result is that they are one with Christ, full of sympathy and tenderness and love. When anyone is drawing apart from the ORGANIZED BODY of God’s commandment-keeping people, and they begin to WEIGH THE CHURCH IN THEIR HUMAN SCALES, and begin to pronounce judgment against them, then you may know that God is not leading them. They are on the wrong track. 8LtMs, Ms 21, 1893, par. 24

Constantly, men and women are arising who become restless and uneasy, who want to set up some new contrivance, to do some wonderful thing. Satan watches his opportunities to give them something to do in his line. God has given to every man his work. There are opportunities and privileges in the church to help those who are ready to die, and to inspire the church with zeal, but NOT TO TEAR THE CHURCH TO PIECES. There are plenty of opportunities in the church to walk in Christ’s lines. If the heart is full of zeal to press on to a deeper sanctification and holiness, then work in that line in all humbleness and devotedness. The church needs freshness and the inspiration of men who breathe in the very atmosphere of heaven, to vitalize the church, NOTWITHSTANDING THE TARES ARE AMONG THE WHEAT. 8LtMs, Ms 21, 1893, par. 25

5. Quotes dissipating any worries concerning the trinity doctrine. (Personally I don’t use the word trinity because it is not in the Bible) The Father can not be described by the things of earth. The Father is all the fullness of the Godhead bodily, and is invisible to mortal sight. The Son is all the fullness of the Godhead manifested. The word of God declares Him to be “the express image of His person.” “God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in Him should not perish, but have everlasting life.” Here is shown the personality of the Father. BTS March 1, 1906, par. 1 The Comforter that Christ promised to send after He ascended to heaven, is the Spirit in all the fullness of the Godhead, making manifest the power of divine grace to all who receive and believe in Christ as a personal Saviour. There are three living persons of the heavenly trio. In the name of these three powers,—the Father, the Son, and the Holy Ghost, those who receive Christ by living faith are baptized, and these powers will cooperate with the obedient subjects of heaven in their efforts to live the new life in Christ BTS March 1, 1906, par. 2
6. I apologise for using capital letters to highlight certain parts as it looks like shouting, but the system does not allow bold characters. Blessings brother.

Now is the time for people to go back and study the history of the ‘dark ages’, so that they will know who they are playing with. To all who may read this, satan is cunning! The Scriptures tells us that he transforms himself into an angel of light, and his ministers can do so too:

“13 For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ.
14 And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.
15 Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works. ”
2 Corinthians 11:13-15 KJV

They are deceitful workers!

As an sda, now is not the time to be making friends, we have a work to do. We have to give the 3rd Angel’s Message to the world, warning the world of this deception. We can’t do this if we are making friends with those who are secretly working to bring the world into false worship/idol worship. Yes, this may not appear to be this way, but that’s why we need not trust in our own understanding and wisdom, but walk by faith and not by sight; the Word of God tells us the Truth and what to do; diop is working against and undermining our faith, and the faith he claims to be a part of. From such we are to separate from:

“Of those who are constantly working to undermine faith in the message God is sending to his people, I am instructed to say, “Come out from among them, and be ye separate.” Come into the light, brethren, and lead others to the Way, the Truth, and the Life. Those who in faith accept the leadings of the Spirit of God will see where their dangers lie, and will make decided moves in the right direction.” RH July 23, 1908 – RH July 23, 1908, par. 12

“The enemy is preparing for his last campaign against the church. He has so concealed himself from view that many can hardly believe that he exists, much less can they be convinced of his amazing activity and power. They have to a great extent forgotten his past record; and when he makes another advance move, they will not recognize him as their enemy, that old serpent, but they will consider him a friend, one who is doing a good work. Boasting of their independence they will, under his specious, bewitching influence, obey the worst impulses of the human heart and yet believe that God is leading them. Could their eyes be opened to distinguish their captain, they would see that they are not serving God, but the enemy of all righteousness. They would see that their boasted independence is one of the heaviest fetters Satan can rivet on unbalanced minds.
Man is Satan’s captive and is naturally inclined to follow his suggestions and do his bidding. He has in himself no power to oppose effectual resistance to evil. It is only as Christ abides in him by living faith, influencing his desires and strengthening him with strength from above, that man may venture to face so terrible a foe. Every other means of defense is utterly vain. It is only through Christ that Satan’s power is limited. This is a momentous truth that all should understand. Satan is busy every moment, going to and fro, walking up and down in the earth, seeking whom he may devour. But the earnest prayer of faith will baffle his strongest efforts. Then take “the shield of faith,” brethren, “wherewith ye shall be able to quench all the fiery darts of the wicked.”
The worst enemies we have are those who are trying to destroy the influence of the watchmen upon the walls of Zion. Satan works through agents. He is making an earnest effort here. He works according to a definite plan, and his agents act in concert. A line of unbelief stretches across the continent and is in communication with the church of God. Its influence has been exerted to undermine confidence in the work of the Spirit of God. This element is here and is silently working. Be careful lest you be found aiding the enemy of God and man by spreading false reports and by criticisms and decided opposition.” 5T 294.1 – 5T 294.3

Michel has quoted 2 Corinthians 6;17 ; Which says what’s the relationship between Christ and Belial?” The verse goes on to say : come out from them and be seperate . I said in that article the current leadership of the General Conference is leading the S.D.A flock into astray, and the Man of Sin has planted his own secret army into the top echelons of the Church leadership. President Ted Wilson; and Leader of Religious Liberty Ganoune Diop have sold out their souls to the devil and they are Jesuits working for the Pope of Rome , but many did not believe.

The S.D.A movement was ordained by God, to unmask the dark past crimes of the Papal Rome after the period of 1,260 years of dark ages. Those years the Bible was forbidden to be read to all people , but a few christans faithful few who usuall read the bible in their hidden houses and alp mountains. The Waldenses; Huegenots; Albigenses were the only ones who were able to defy the authority of Roman Church. By the time Seventh Day Adventists came into scene after the ”Great Dissappointment of 1844, many protestant chuchesafter rejecting the first angels messages they had now become ” Babylon”. In the book of 2SM pg:204; ….The Messenger of the Lord says: the Pioneers of our S.D.A church were keen, noble , true and they read the scriptures day and night . And if there was somewhere they didn’t understand Ellen White was taken into vision for more revelation.

But after the years, passed on, the foundation of our faith was destroyed by the Leaders who led the General Conference who were Jesuits who disguised themselves as S.D.A’S but they were not who introduced the Apostacy in the church. The men who introduced apostacy and established the new organization which Ellen White warned about were as follows: Uriah Smith ; W.W. Presccott; A.G .Daniels; George . I. Butler; Andre Ole Olsen ; G. A.Irwin; John Harvey Kellogg; Herbert Camden Lacey and many others. The foundation of Seventh Day Adventists was firmly established through Bible and Spirit of prophecy and 25 Fundamental principals, not the 28 fundamental beliefs.

The foundation of S.D.A fundamental Principals was destroyed after the death of all pioneers the last pioneer died in 1924, his name as John Loborough and it’s A.G.Daniels who was then President of General Conference who told Le Roy Froom a Jesuit to change the S.D.A faith and he introduce the Church manual which was rejected by the pioneers in 1883. The Doctrine of the Trinity was introduced in the church manual in 1931 and became a creed for the church . This was the first step the S.D.A entered into the apostacy by introducing the creed which dictated the members to follow . The first creed was introduced in the year 538 A.D ,after Emperor Justinian defeated the Ostrogoths through General Belisarius and the Bishop of Rome was made the head of all churches in the Western Roman Empire.The Code of Justinian was introduced officially and trinity doctrine became the creed for all churches .

The Four men in the S.D.A leadership were responsible for this apostacy of introducing the trinity doctrine were as follows namely Charles .H.Watson; Francis MCllellan Wilcox; E.M Palmer;M.E. Kern . In the book Movement of destiny by Le Roy Froom PG; 414.The fundamental beliefs were shortened to 22 in number.The trinitarian baptism formular was also introduced in 1941; and was officially adopted in 1984. The trinity doctrine was officially voted in 1980 in Denver convention , Neal.C .Wilson who was then President was respnsible for this apostacy and from that moment S.D.A church became a harlot sister to Roman Catholic Church.Neal C. Wilson said ; there is one” TRULLY” universal Catholic Church the Seventh Adventist Church. Surely does this sound to be a man who is dedicated or committed to S.D.A Faith by making such kind of statement.(Adventist Review) March ,5,1981.

“For all nations have drunk of the wine of the wrath of her fornication, and the kings of the earth have committed fornication with her, and the merchants of the earth are waxed rich through the abundance of her delicacies.” Revelation‬ ‭18‬:‭3‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape.”
‭‭1 Thessalonians‬ ‭5‬:‭3‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“And Jesus answered and said unto them, Take heed that no man deceive you.”
‭‭Matthew‬ ‭24‬:‭4‬ ‭KJV‬‬

Popery is just what prophecy declared that she would be,—the apostasy of the latter times. It is a part of her policy to assume the character which will best accomplish her purpose; but beneath the variable appearance of the chameleon, she conceals the invariable venom of the serpent. 4SP 388.1