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		By: Samuel Kimani Njoroge		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Samuel Kimani Njoroge]]></dc:creator>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://adventmessenger.org/in-a-turn-of-events-the-vatican-flag-was-not-displayed-at-62nd-general-conference-session/comment-page-1/#comment-86245&quot;&gt;Truza&lt;/a&gt;.

Dear Truza.....


I want to inform you that  the trinitarian baptism formula was introduced by the Roman Catholic church in the second century. The Apostles never baptized in the trinitarian formula of Father; Son ;Holy Spirit. They baptized in the name of Jesus Christ .Read the bible in the book of Acts 2:38. The original bible manuscripts did not include the word trinity it was brought by Tertullian who was Catholic Scholar. The Apostles of Christ did not embrace this apostacy of Rome . In the Catholic encyclopaedia page : 263, it says , the word Jesus Christ was removed and trinitarian formula was introduced in the second century.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://adventmessenger.org/in-a-turn-of-events-the-vatican-flag-was-not-displayed-at-62nd-general-conference-session/comment-page-1/#comment-86245">Truza</a>.</p>
<p>Dear Truza&#8230;..</p>
<p>I want to inform you that  the trinitarian baptism formula was introduced by the Roman Catholic church in the second century. The Apostles never baptized in the trinitarian formula of Father; Son ;Holy Spirit. They baptized in the name of Jesus Christ .Read the bible in the book of Acts 2:38. The original bible manuscripts did not include the word trinity it was brought by Tertullian who was Catholic Scholar. The Apostles of Christ did not embrace this apostacy of Rome . In the Catholic encyclopaedia page : 263, it says , the word Jesus Christ was removed and trinitarian formula was introduced in the second century.</p>
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		By: Tom Magnusson		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tom Magnusson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jul 2025 16:37:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://adventmessenger.org/in-a-turn-of-events-the-vatican-flag-was-not-displayed-at-62nd-general-conference-session/comment-page-1/#comment-86204&quot;&gt;Samuel Kimani Njoroge&lt;/a&gt;.

The purpose of the flag is not to declare that the inhabitants of the country are all Seventh-day Adventists or even that the nation is friendly towards those preaching the gospel. Does not God have people even among the Roman Catholic church that need to be called out? Vatican City is not even solely made up of church officials. There are 135 Swiss Guard and their families.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://adventmessenger.org/in-a-turn-of-events-the-vatican-flag-was-not-displayed-at-62nd-general-conference-session/comment-page-1/#comment-86204">Samuel Kimani Njoroge</a>.</p>
<p>The purpose of the flag is not to declare that the inhabitants of the country are all Seventh-day Adventists or even that the nation is friendly towards those preaching the gospel. Does not God have people even among the Roman Catholic church that need to be called out? Vatican City is not even solely made up of church officials. There are 135 Swiss Guard and their families.</p>
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		By: Truza		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Truza]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jul 2025 06:09:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://adventmessenger.org/in-a-turn-of-events-the-vatican-flag-was-not-displayed-at-62nd-general-conference-session/comment-page-1/#comment-86198&quot;&gt;Samuel Kimani Njoroge&lt;/a&gt;.

Go ye therefore and make disciples of all nations,baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the HOLY SPIRIT,]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://adventmessenger.org/in-a-turn-of-events-the-vatican-flag-was-not-displayed-at-62nd-general-conference-session/comment-page-1/#comment-86198">Samuel Kimani Njoroge</a>.</p>
<p>Go ye therefore and make disciples of all nations,baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the HOLY SPIRIT,</p>
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		By: Br. Marcus		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Br. Marcus]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2025 20:34:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://adventmessenger.org/in-a-turn-of-events-the-vatican-flag-was-not-displayed-at-62nd-general-conference-session/comment-page-1/#comment-86204&quot;&gt;Samuel Kimani Njoroge&lt;/a&gt;.

Amen and Amen!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://adventmessenger.org/in-a-turn-of-events-the-vatican-flag-was-not-displayed-at-62nd-general-conference-session/comment-page-1/#comment-86204">Samuel Kimani Njoroge</a>.</p>
<p>Amen and Amen!</p>
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		By: Samuel Kimani Njoroge		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Samuel Kimani Njoroge]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2025 14:12:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The parade of nations was first witnessed in Utrecht in Netherlands in 1995 in General Conference session for the first time. This was after Oklahoma bombings in the United States. The canon law (Terrorism bill was introduced ). The bill was aimed to curtail the  freedom of expression and the bill of rights. This was censorship and for the first time we started witnessing erosion of Liberty of consciousness and freedom of expression. This bill was signed during democratic presidency of Bill Clinton. When the  world Trade center twin towers were bombed on September 11,2001, the patriotic Act was passed by Republican Presidency of George W. Bush. The Jesuits of Rome were behind these developments , and that&#039;s why instigated terror activities in Oklahoma and World Trade center to divert attention from them and blame Osama Bin Laden. This is the beggining of religious terrorism in America which will culminate to the enactment of National Sunday Law in America.

Two years later in 1997, THE THREE ANGELS BANNER was changed to THREE WAVY LINES LOGO which is a Jesuit freemason logo. And from that time , the S.D.A church was never the same again. The 300 delegates converged in Lima Peru ,  from October 1-9 , 1996  to change the ORIGINAL LOGO and embrace an Ecumenical Catholic logo  which Ellen White had forewarned in the book of TESTIMONIES FOR THE CHURCH page 577. The Vatican flag in General Conference is clear indication that the Jesuits have successfully infiltrated our church and destroyed it from within.It&#039;s very unfortunate that many Adventists are not aware of this , because they are still asleep.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The parade of nations was first witnessed in Utrecht in Netherlands in 1995 in General Conference session for the first time. This was after Oklahoma bombings in the United States. The canon law (Terrorism bill was introduced ). The bill was aimed to curtail the  freedom of expression and the bill of rights. This was censorship and for the first time we started witnessing erosion of Liberty of consciousness and freedom of expression. This bill was signed during democratic presidency of Bill Clinton. When the  world Trade center twin towers were bombed on September 11,2001, the patriotic Act was passed by Republican Presidency of George W. Bush. The Jesuits of Rome were behind these developments , and that&#8217;s why instigated terror activities in Oklahoma and World Trade center to divert attention from them and blame Osama Bin Laden. This is the beggining of religious terrorism in America which will culminate to the enactment of National Sunday Law in America.</p>
<p>Two years later in 1997, THE THREE ANGELS BANNER was changed to THREE WAVY LINES LOGO which is a Jesuit freemason logo. And from that time , the S.D.A church was never the same again. The 300 delegates converged in Lima Peru ,  from October 1-9 , 1996  to change the ORIGINAL LOGO and embrace an Ecumenical Catholic logo  which Ellen White had forewarned in the book of TESTIMONIES FOR THE CHURCH page 577. The Vatican flag in General Conference is clear indication that the Jesuits have successfully infiltrated our church and destroyed it from within.It&#8217;s very unfortunate that many Adventists are not aware of this , because they are still asleep.</p>
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		By: Samuel Kimani Njoroge		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Samuel Kimani Njoroge]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2025 10:13:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[If the New General conference  President is Erton Kohler, determined to make reforms in the Seventh Day Adventist Church .  He must ensure the following: 

-To adhere to the original foundation of S.D.A  doctrines (25 fundamental principals)-Not the current 28 fundamental beliefs.
-To restore the original three angels message logo.(The S.D.A Mission is to preach three angels messages and unmask the papacy.)
-To withdraw the S.D.A church membership from Christian World Communions (C.W.C ). Which is a branch of world council of churches.
-To abandon the Church manual and restore the Bible and  spirit of prophecy writings of Mrs.Ellen G. White. Church Manual was rejected by the Pioneers because it forces the christians to accept doctrines which contrary to the scriptures e.g Trinity.Church manual is the creation of Roman Catholic Church. 
-Reject any relations with churches in the Ecumenical agenda.e.g Ecumenism is abandoning the scriptures and the bible truth and accepting the traditions of the Roman catholic church.
-Avoiding sending S.D.A DELEGATES to the Ecumenical gatherings.

If these changes above take place , then there would be no reason for forming the independent ministries. The reason as to why the S.D.A church is in the current apostacy is because we abandoned the original foundation laid down by our pioneers and adopted the Roman Catholic traditions and doctrines. In the book called &#039;&#039;Lest we forget&#039;&#039; authored by George R. Knight , the Emeritus proffessor of the Andrews University, in page 288; we read the following : Most founders (Pioneers of the Seventh Day Adventist Church ), will not join the church today? Why? Because they will not believe in the number two belief doctrine of the Trinity. In the ORIGINAL 25 fundamental principals ,they believed in God and Christ there was nothing like the third person of the Godhead.That&#039;s why many Seventh day Adventists do not realise when they glorifying the Holy Spirit they are actually worshipping satan without their knowledge? Sunday sacredness and Trinity = Sunday Worship which is actually the worship of the Satan .

From the Douy Catholic Catechism of 1649 page 43; we read the following- Sunday sacredness is dedicated to the most holy apostles in the most holy trinity. The Doctrine of the Holy Trinity is the central pillar of the Roman Catholic Church , and many S.D.A &#039;S  have been deceived to believe this erroneous doctrine which has no biblical evidence. Trinity doctrine teaches that there is One God co-existing in three persons namely :God the Father; God the Son ; God the Holy Spirit. But the bible teaches the otherwise  . What&#039;s the description of the Holy Spirit in the scriptures Psalms 139:7 says&#039;&#039;,where can i go from your spirit? Where can i hide from your prescence? This verse expresses the Concept of God&#039;s omniprescence meaning God is every where, and there is no place, a person can run to hide God and his Holy spirit.

In the book Acts of Apostles page 52, the nature of Holy spirit is a mystery , men cannot explain it, because the Lord has not revealed to them. Christ tells us the spirit is the comforter, spirit of truth which procceeds from the Father. So, Ellen G. White cannot contadict herself she&#039;s always consistent. There is another quote many S.D.A&#039;S always misquote in the wrong way (Desire of Ages page 671;Sin could be overcome through the mighty agency of the third person of the Godhead, but what people don&#039;t realise is that Mrs . Ellen White did not write this text , she had entrusted her writings to her editor Mary Davis , she went to consult for advice and she found a guy called Herbert Camden Lacey, who had studied at Cooranbong in the trinitarian colleges in Australia,in 1896, therefore this guy is the one who introduced the the term &#039;&#039; Third Person &#039;&#039; of the Godhead.

There is another book which has caused a lot of confusion for the S.D.A.S is Evangelism. Many Adventists think this book was written by Ellen .White . Which is very WRONG? This book consists of writings of Mrs .White and was compiled in 1946, It was written by Jesuit Pastor in the S.D.A church called Le Roy Froom &#039;,he says that the Holy Spirit has the personality, he has legs can move, walk,  and he&#039;s a third person of the Godhead. The two men Herbert Camden Lacey and Le Roy Froom were instrumental in bringing the apostacy in the Seventh Day Adventist Church. Our brethren have been duped into believing this deadly heresy and they are not aware majority of them. So , in short Trinity doctrine has it&#039;s origins in Babylon and it&#039;s the foundation of modern spiritual Babylon ?(Roman Catholic Church). Ecumenism is leading the way into apostacy and Trinity and sunworship adopted by Roman Church will later lead many mulutitudes of humanity into the lake of fire?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If the New General conference  President is Erton Kohler, determined to make reforms in the Seventh Day Adventist Church .  He must ensure the following: </p>
<p>-To adhere to the original foundation of S.D.A  doctrines (25 fundamental principals)-Not the current 28 fundamental beliefs.<br />
-To restore the original three angels message logo.(The S.D.A Mission is to preach three angels messages and unmask the papacy.)<br />
-To withdraw the S.D.A church membership from Christian World Communions (C.W.C ). Which is a branch of world council of churches.<br />
-To abandon the Church manual and restore the Bible and  spirit of prophecy writings of Mrs.Ellen G. White. Church Manual was rejected by the Pioneers because it forces the christians to accept doctrines which contrary to the scriptures e.g Trinity.Church manual is the creation of Roman Catholic Church.<br />
-Reject any relations with churches in the Ecumenical agenda.e.g Ecumenism is abandoning the scriptures and the bible truth and accepting the traditions of the Roman catholic church.<br />
-Avoiding sending S.D.A DELEGATES to the Ecumenical gatherings.</p>
<p>If these changes above take place , then there would be no reason for forming the independent ministries. The reason as to why the S.D.A church is in the current apostacy is because we abandoned the original foundation laid down by our pioneers and adopted the Roman Catholic traditions and doctrines. In the book called &#8221;Lest we forget&#8221; authored by George R. Knight , the Emeritus proffessor of the Andrews University, in page 288; we read the following : Most founders (Pioneers of the Seventh Day Adventist Church ), will not join the church today? Why? Because they will not believe in the number two belief doctrine of the Trinity. In the ORIGINAL 25 fundamental principals ,they believed in God and Christ there was nothing like the third person of the Godhead.That&#8217;s why many Seventh day Adventists do not realise when they glorifying the Holy Spirit they are actually worshipping satan without their knowledge? Sunday sacredness and Trinity = Sunday Worship which is actually the worship of the Satan .</p>
<p>From the Douy Catholic Catechism of 1649 page 43; we read the following- Sunday sacredness is dedicated to the most holy apostles in the most holy trinity. The Doctrine of the Holy Trinity is the central pillar of the Roman Catholic Church , and many S.D.A &#8216;S  have been deceived to believe this erroneous doctrine which has no biblical evidence. Trinity doctrine teaches that there is One God co-existing in three persons namely :God the Father; God the Son ; God the Holy Spirit. But the bible teaches the otherwise  . What&#8217;s the description of the Holy Spirit in the scriptures Psalms 139:7 says&#8221;,where can i go from your spirit? Where can i hide from your prescence? This verse expresses the Concept of God&#8217;s omniprescence meaning God is every where, and there is no place, a person can run to hide God and his Holy spirit.</p>
<p>In the book Acts of Apostles page 52, the nature of Holy spirit is a mystery , men cannot explain it, because the Lord has not revealed to them. Christ tells us the spirit is the comforter, spirit of truth which procceeds from the Father. So, Ellen G. White cannot contadict herself she&#8217;s always consistent. There is another quote many S.D.A&#8217;S always misquote in the wrong way (Desire of Ages page 671;Sin could be overcome through the mighty agency of the third person of the Godhead, but what people don&#8217;t realise is that Mrs . Ellen White did not write this text , she had entrusted her writings to her editor Mary Davis , she went to consult for advice and she found a guy called Herbert Camden Lacey, who had studied at Cooranbong in the trinitarian colleges in Australia,in 1896, therefore this guy is the one who introduced the the term &#8221; Third Person &#8221; of the Godhead.</p>
<p>There is another book which has caused a lot of confusion for the S.D.A.S is Evangelism. Many Adventists think this book was written by Ellen .White . Which is very WRONG? This book consists of writings of Mrs .White and was compiled in 1946, It was written by Jesuit Pastor in the S.D.A church called Le Roy Froom &#8216;,he says that the Holy Spirit has the personality, he has legs can move, walk,  and he&#8217;s a third person of the Godhead. The two men Herbert Camden Lacey and Le Roy Froom were instrumental in bringing the apostacy in the Seventh Day Adventist Church. Our brethren have been duped into believing this deadly heresy and they are not aware majority of them. So , in short Trinity doctrine has it&#8217;s origins in Babylon and it&#8217;s the foundation of modern spiritual Babylon ?(Roman Catholic Church). Ecumenism is leading the way into apostacy and Trinity and sunworship adopted by Roman Church will later lead many mulutitudes of humanity into the lake of fire?</p>
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		By: YesMsJane		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jul 2025 12:47:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		By: Patricia Heinrich		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Patricia Heinrich]]></dc:creator>
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