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	Comments on: Provocative Dancing and Swaying Hips were on Full Display at the “Renewed in Christ Event,” hosted by Sydney Adventist Women, a Ministry of the Greater Sydney Conference of SDAs	</title>
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		By: Penney Claiborne		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Penney Claiborne]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Nov 2023 02:36:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://adventmessenger.org/provocative-dancing-and-swaying-hips-were-on-full-display-at-the-renewed-in-christ-event-hosted-by-sydney-adventist-women-a-ministry-of-the-greater-sydney-conference-of-sdas/comment-page-1/#comment-48463&quot;&gt;Eric Doering&lt;/a&gt;.

Amen brother Eric. Perfectly said.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://adventmessenger.org/provocative-dancing-and-swaying-hips-were-on-full-display-at-the-renewed-in-christ-event-hosted-by-sydney-adventist-women-a-ministry-of-the-greater-sydney-conference-of-sdas/comment-page-1/#comment-48463">Eric Doering</a>.</p>
<p>Amen brother Eric. Perfectly said.</p>
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		By: Andrea		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Andrea]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Nov 2023 03:13:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Women pastors/ preachers (including EGW&#039;s &quot;ministry&quot;) is a straight up abomination of the Lord according to 1 Timothy 3.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Women pastors/ preachers (including EGW&#8217;s &#8220;ministry&#8221;) is a straight up abomination of the Lord according to 1 Timothy 3.</p>
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		By: Billy Blue Layman		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Billy Blue Layman]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Nov 2023 05:56:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[If a church leads its members astray from God, then the Holy Ghost is not in that church your just going for the show.  Who was the greatest showman and deceiver in the Bible.   Just because you cannot see the Evil fallen does not mean they are not there watching learning how to temp or destroy/keep us from God.   Something to think about.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If a church leads its members astray from God, then the Holy Ghost is not in that church your just going for the show.  Who was the greatest showman and deceiver in the Bible.   Just because you cannot see the Evil fallen does not mean they are not there watching learning how to temp or destroy/keep us from God.   Something to think about.</p>
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		By: Eric Doering		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Eric Doering]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Nov 2023 00:22:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://adventmessenger.org/provocative-dancing-and-swaying-hips-were-on-full-display-at-the-renewed-in-christ-event-hosted-by-sydney-adventist-women-a-ministry-of-the-greater-sydney-conference-of-sdas/comment-page-1/#comment-48338&quot;&gt;Nathan&lt;/a&gt;.

Questions:
1.  What does the Sabbath have to do with the actions of these SDA women?  This is purposefully sensual and provocative behavior and directs the mind to low, earthly thoughts.  If I&#039;m correctly understanding the comment above, it seems as though it is being implied that this dancing and music is wrong (meaning sin) during the Sabbath hours, but as soon as the sun drops over the horizon, the audience cheers because now it suddenly becomes neutral or otherwise sanctified such that “God&#039;s people” may participate...?  This is illogical, unreasonable, and completely unsustainable from God&#039;s inspired word.

2.  Does anyone honestly believe that this sort of thing will be present in heaven, regardless of whether it is after the close of the Sabbath or in the middle of the week?  If so, your concept of the holy, sanctified nature of God, his righteous character, and the pureness of his abode has been distorted beyond recognition.  The joy that we will express in the company of angels as we behold the unsurpassed glory of holiness is only described as singing with all our might so that heaven&#039;s arches ring, and bowing down before the majesty of creation as an expression of worship that is brought forth by love.  I&#039;ve never seen it written that our mothers, sisters, and wives will do a seductive dance for King Jesus.  It turns the stomach to even consider such an abomination.

3.  Which cultures of this world, exactly, are the ones that present a sanctified expression of reverence for the one true God of heaven and earth?  There isn&#039;t even a single &quot;cultural&quot; tradition that is rooted in the desire to worship God in the beauty of holiness.  All cultures are steeped in paganism.  God calls his people to come out of this condition and to worship him in spirit and in truth.  Why do so many SDA&#039;s try to vindicate the emulation of the world, bringing in &quot;traditions&quot; that are rooted in worldliness, rather than repudiate these things?  The answer is because they love the world and desire to be connected to it (in bondage to it) rather than being truth loving citizens of God’s kingdom.  The concept of participating in “cultural traditions” is a flimsy attempt to justify acts that are unquestionably wrong in God’s eyes.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://adventmessenger.org/provocative-dancing-and-swaying-hips-were-on-full-display-at-the-renewed-in-christ-event-hosted-by-sydney-adventist-women-a-ministry-of-the-greater-sydney-conference-of-sdas/comment-page-1/#comment-48338">Nathan</a>.</p>
<p>Questions:<br />
1.  What does the Sabbath have to do with the actions of these SDA women?  This is purposefully sensual and provocative behavior and directs the mind to low, earthly thoughts.  If I&#8217;m correctly understanding the comment above, it seems as though it is being implied that this dancing and music is wrong (meaning sin) during the Sabbath hours, but as soon as the sun drops over the horizon, the audience cheers because now it suddenly becomes neutral or otherwise sanctified such that “God&#8217;s people” may participate&#8230;?  This is illogical, unreasonable, and completely unsustainable from God&#8217;s inspired word.</p>
<p>2.  Does anyone honestly believe that this sort of thing will be present in heaven, regardless of whether it is after the close of the Sabbath or in the middle of the week?  If so, your concept of the holy, sanctified nature of God, his righteous character, and the pureness of his abode has been distorted beyond recognition.  The joy that we will express in the company of angels as we behold the unsurpassed glory of holiness is only described as singing with all our might so that heaven&#8217;s arches ring, and bowing down before the majesty of creation as an expression of worship that is brought forth by love.  I&#8217;ve never seen it written that our mothers, sisters, and wives will do a seductive dance for King Jesus.  It turns the stomach to even consider such an abomination.</p>
<p>3.  Which cultures of this world, exactly, are the ones that present a sanctified expression of reverence for the one true God of heaven and earth?  There isn&#8217;t even a single &#8220;cultural&#8221; tradition that is rooted in the desire to worship God in the beauty of holiness.  All cultures are steeped in paganism.  God calls his people to come out of this condition and to worship him in spirit and in truth.  Why do so many SDA&#8217;s try to vindicate the emulation of the world, bringing in &#8220;traditions&#8221; that are rooted in worldliness, rather than repudiate these things?  The answer is because they love the world and desire to be connected to it (in bondage to it) rather than being truth loving citizens of God’s kingdom.  The concept of participating in “cultural traditions” is a flimsy attempt to justify acts that are unquestionably wrong in God’s eyes.</p>
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		By: Linda		</title>
		<link>https://adventmessenger.org/provocative-dancing-and-swaying-hips-were-on-full-display-at-the-renewed-in-christ-event-hosted-by-sydney-adventist-women-a-ministry-of-the-greater-sydney-conference-of-sdas/comment-page-1/#comment-48364</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Linda]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Nov 2023 06:40:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[It is disheartening to see so many in the SDA faith embracing cultural diversity as a justification to engage in behaviours that we have been given guidance and instruction concerning. The angel of Revelation 18 is clear: &quot;Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins.&quot; Babylon wears many disguises.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is disheartening to see so many in the SDA faith embracing cultural diversity as a justification to engage in behaviours that we have been given guidance and instruction concerning. The angel of Revelation 18 is clear: &#8220;Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins.&#8221; Babylon wears many disguises.</p>
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		By: Jane		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jane]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Nov 2023 06:39:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://adventmessenger.org/provocative-dancing-and-swaying-hips-were-on-full-display-at-the-renewed-in-christ-event-hosted-by-sydney-adventist-women-a-ministry-of-the-greater-sydney-conference-of-sdas/comment-page-1/#comment-48338&quot;&gt;Nathan&lt;/a&gt;.

I whole heartedly agree with this comment.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://adventmessenger.org/provocative-dancing-and-swaying-hips-were-on-full-display-at-the-renewed-in-christ-event-hosted-by-sydney-adventist-women-a-ministry-of-the-greater-sydney-conference-of-sdas/comment-page-1/#comment-48338">Nathan</a>.</p>
<p>I whole heartedly agree with this comment.</p>
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		By: Nathan		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Nathan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Nov 2023 09:16:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[A poorly written article. It is sad and dangerous that a person can report on something they were not at and have not sought clarification from those leaders in charge of the conference.

1. The sabbath day had already been closed 

2. It was cultural night and the dances were done by people from that culture

I’m certain there will be praising and dancing in Heaven.

In future before publishing such an article do you due diligence and seek the truth instead of spreading lies. Your poor judgement can cause people to turn from Jesus]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A poorly written article. It is sad and dangerous that a person can report on something they were not at and have not sought clarification from those leaders in charge of the conference.</p>
<p>1. The sabbath day had already been closed </p>
<p>2. It was cultural night and the dances were done by people from that culture</p>
<p>I’m certain there will be praising and dancing in Heaven.</p>
<p>In future before publishing such an article do you due diligence and seek the truth instead of spreading lies. Your poor judgement can cause people to turn from Jesus</p>
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		By: Michelle		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Michelle]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Nov 2023 02:41:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Ichabod!  The glory of the Lord has departed from the SDA church as an organization ... Rather, He works with and through individuals who hold to the old paths of truth.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ichabod!  The glory of the Lord has departed from the SDA church as an organization &#8230; Rather, He works with and through individuals who hold to the old paths of truth.</p>
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		By: Jason		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jason]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Nov 2023 11:17:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[God help us. ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>God help us. </p>
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