Comments on: Rome has not Changed Because it Endorses a Form of “Religious Liberty” that is Subject to Government Oversight, the Common Good, and Cancellation

By: Janet Meredith

Janet Meredith — Mon, 30 Sep 2024 21:56:31 +0000

Diop should NOT be representing the Adventist Church. He doesn’t hold to our beliefs at all.

By: David Cousins

David Cousins — Sun, 29 Sep 2024 17:51:30 +0000

Diop is earning quite the reputation as the bad boy of Adventism

By: Jon

Jon — Sat, 28 Sep 2024 10:48:49 +0000

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By: Erich Schultze

Erich Schultze — Fri, 27 Sep 2024 19:12:01 +0000

Thank you for this good article, which also takes a closer look at religious freedom from the papal point of view, which Ganoune Diop praises, and shows that this is not about the absolute freedom of faith and conscience of the individual, but is restricted by the “common good”, which is certainly defined and determined by the pope and the powerful of this world. In addition to Ellen White’s clear statements that Rome will not change, Diop must be reproached for the fact that he obviously no longer believes in the fulfillment of the prophecies of Revelation about the Antichrist that lie ahead of us and thus rejects above all the third angel’s message, which warns of the “beast”, his “image” and the “mark” that we as Adventists are to proclaim.
Since Ganoune Diop was particularly conspicuously protected by the leadership of the GC at the last General Conference plenary session (the disclosure of his misconduct by Johnathan Zirkle was boycotted) and he was re-elected to office, it can be assumed that the GC leaders are following the same line as Diop. In addition, despite these scandalous public statements by Brother Diop, no criticism or rebuttal has been forthcoming from Ted Wilson or ADCOM to date. This means that the vast majority of the leadership of the GK – at least in the North American division – obviously stands behind Ganoune Diop’s statements, because those who remain silent agree! And this highlights a huge problem, as well as creating additional explosive material for a split in the near future. Let us earnestly pray to God to guide and direct everything so that clarity will soon prevail, sins will be confessed and cleared up, and the faithful can proclaim the threefold angel’s message in the power of the latter rain!

By: Mg

Mg — Fri, 27 Sep 2024 15:49:14 +0000

The church that holds to the word of God is irreconcilably separated from Rome. Protestants were once thus apart from this great church of apostasy, but they have approached more nearly to her, and are still in the path of reconciliation to the Church of Rome. Rome never changes. Her principles have not altered in the least. She has not lessened the breach between herself and Protestants; they have done all the advancing. But what does this argue for the Protestantism of this day? It is the rejection of Bible truth which makes men approach to infidelity. It is a backsliding church that lessens the distance between itself and the Papacy. ST February 19, 1894, par. 4

By: Jon

Jon — Fri, 27 Sep 2024 12:16:53 +0000

As the Protestant churches have been seeking the favor of the world, false charity has blinded their eyes. They do not see but that it is right to believe good of all evil; and as the inevitable result, they will finally believe evil of all good. Instead of standing in defense of the faith once delivered to the saints, they are now, as it were, apologizing to Rome for their uncharitable opinion of her, begging pardon for their bigotry. – GC88 571.3

A large class, even of those who look upon Romanism with no favor, apprehend little danger from her power and influence. Many urge that the intellectual and moral darkness prevailing during the Middle Ages favored the spread of her dogmas, superstitions, and oppression, and that the greater intelligence of modern times, the general diffusion of knowledge, and the increasing liberality in matters of religion, forbid a revival of intolerance and tyranny. The very thought that such a state of things will exist in this enlightened age is ridiculed. It is true that great light, intellectual, moral, and religious, is shining upon this generation. In the open pages of God’s holy Word, light from Heaven has been shed upon the world. But it should be remembered that the greater the light bestowed, the greater the darkness of those who pervert or reject it. – GC88 572.1

A prayerful study of the Bible would show Protestants the real character of the papacy, and would cause them to abhor and to shun it; but many are so wise in their own conceit that they feel no need of humbly seeking God that they may be led into the truth. Although priding themselves on their enlightenment, they are ignorant both of the Scriptures and of the power of God. They must have some means of quieting their consciences; and they seek that which is least spiritual and humiliating. What they desire is a method of forgetting God which shall pass as a method of remembering him. The papacy is well adapted to meet the wants of all these. It is prepared for two classes of mankind, embracing nearly the whole world,—those who would be saved by their merits, and those who would be saved in their sins. Here is the secret of its power. – GC88 572.2

A day of great intellectual darkness has been shown to be favorable to the success of popery. It will yet be demonstrated that a day of great intellectual light is equally favorable for its success. In past ages, when men were without God’s Word, and without the knowledge of the truth, their eyes were blindfolded, and thousands were ensnared, not seeing the net spread for their feet. In this generation there are many whose eyes become dazzled by the glare of human speculations, “science falsely so-called;” they discern not the net, and walk into it as readily as if blindfolded. God designed that man’s intellectual powers should be held as a gift from his Maker, and should be employed in the service of truth and righteousness; but when pride and ambition are cherished, and men exalt their own theories above the Word of God, then intelligence can accomplish greater harm than ignorance. Thus the false science of the nineteenth century, which undermines faith in the Bible, will prove as successful in preparing the way for the acceptance of the papacy, with its pleasing forms, as did the withholding of knowledge in opening the way for its aggrandizement in the Dark Ages. – GC88 572.3

In the movements now in progress in the United States to secure for the institutions and usages of the church the support of the State, Protestants are following in the steps of papists. [See Appendix, Note 11.] Nay, more, they are opening the door for popery to regain in Protestant America the supremacy which she has lost in the Old World. And that which gives greater significance to this movement is the fact that the principal object contemplated is the enforcement of Sunday observance,—a custom which originated with Rome, and which she claims as the sign of her authority. It is the spirit of the papacy,—the spirit of conformity to worldly customs, the veneration for human traditions above the commandments of God,—that is permeating the Protestant churches, and leading them on to do the same work of Sunday exaltation which the papacy has done before them. – GC88 573.1

If the reader would understand the agencies to be employed in the soon-coming contest, he has but to trace the record of the means which Rome employed for the same object in ages past. If he would know how papists and Protestants united will deal with those who reject their dogmas, let him see the spirit which Rome manifested toward the Sabbath and its defenders. – GC88 573.2

By: Jon

Jon — Fri, 27 Sep 2024 12:09:30 +0000

Popery is just what prophecy declared that she would be, the apostasy of the latter times. [2 Thessalonians 2:3, 4.] It is a part of her policy to assume the character which will best accomplish her purpose; but beneath the variable appearance of the chameleon, she conceals the invariable venom of the serpent. “We are not bound to keep faith and promises to heretics,” she declares. Shall this power, whose record for a thousand years is written in the blood of the saints, be now acknowledged as a part of the church of Christ? GC88 571.1
It is not without reason that the claim has been put forth in Protestant countries, that Catholicism differs less widely from Protestantism than in former times. There has been a change; but the change is not in the papacy. Catholicism indeed resembles much of the Protestantism that now exists, because Protestantism has so greatly degenerated since the days of the reformers. GC88 571.2

By: Yes MsJane

Yes MsJane — Fri, 27 Sep 2024 08:52:17 +0000

(Was curious about the work of the jesuits in the country Diop is from)

Google searched:

“jesuits in Senegal”—-Google says:

“Although there are only four Jesuits in the country, the Society is responsible for a parish in Tambacounda, in the centre of the country, and is about to open a new centre in M’bour, 80 km south of Dakar, to work, among other things,

at the service of interreligious dialogue.”

Diop says “So What..”

But His ministry mirrors the Jesuits very work in his own country,

Fascinating, especially considering how the 3 Angel’s messages is meant to be the SDA churches most important work.