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		By: Anonymous		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Apr 2023 18:41:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;There was no mention of any consequences for violating the Sabbath, embracing violent sports, or having a reckless disregard for human life.&quot; As it should be. What would consequences do? Are you so dense that you think consequences would force all the students to get in a line on the path of righteousness? A person convinced against their will is of the same opinion still. Punishments simply make martyrs. &quot;SAU is essentially saying that their authority is only limited to matters pertaining to the university, and that they can do nothing about what students or staff members do in their private lives outside of the campus.&quot; Also as it should be. Trying to control someone&#039;s actions to keep up appearances but not saving their heart is Satanistic. This method of religion, the one you promote, is the reason Jesus has not come yet. It&#039;s papal.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;There was no mention of any consequences for violating the Sabbath, embracing violent sports, or having a reckless disregard for human life.&#8221; As it should be. What would consequences do? Are you so dense that you think consequences would force all the students to get in a line on the path of righteousness? A person convinced against their will is of the same opinion still. Punishments simply make martyrs. &#8220;SAU is essentially saying that their authority is only limited to matters pertaining to the university, and that they can do nothing about what students or staff members do in their private lives outside of the campus.&#8221; Also as it should be. Trying to control someone&#8217;s actions to keep up appearances but not saving their heart is Satanistic. This method of religion, the one you promote, is the reason Jesus has not come yet. It&#8217;s papal.</p>
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		By: Jane		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jane]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Apr 2023 20:49:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I should add I meant to comment, Ellen whites son wore jewelry and read novels IN CHURCH to spite his mother. She NEVER reacted with force and let him come of age to conciously decide with his heart to turn himself over to the Lord. He was never kicked out of church or sent to throw his novels in the trash. Everyone at church saw his acts of rebellion and guess what Ellen White did? Same as Southern, she PRAYED. And he came back because PRAYER IS POWERFUL, and actually works when you HAVE FAITH.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I should add I meant to comment, Ellen whites son wore jewelry and read novels IN CHURCH to spite his mother. She NEVER reacted with force and let him come of age to conciously decide with his heart to turn himself over to the Lord. He was never kicked out of church or sent to throw his novels in the trash. Everyone at church saw his acts of rebellion and guess what Ellen White did? Same as Southern, she PRAYED. And he came back because PRAYER IS POWERFUL, and actually works when you HAVE FAITH.</p>
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		By: Jane		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jane]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Apr 2023 20:48:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I should add I meant to comment, Ellen whites son wore jewelry and read novels IN CHURCH to spite his mother. She NEVER reacted with force and let him come of age to conciously decide with his heart to turn himself over to the Lord. He was never kicked out of church or sent to throw his novels in the trash. Everyone at church saw his acts of rebellion and guess what Ellen White did? Same as Southern, she PRAYED. And he came back because PRAYER IS POWERFUL, and actually works when you HAVE FAITH.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I should add I meant to comment, Ellen whites son wore jewelry and read novels IN CHURCH to spite his mother. She NEVER reacted with force and let him come of age to conciously decide with his heart to turn himself over to the Lord. He was never kicked out of church or sent to throw his novels in the trash. Everyone at church saw his acts of rebellion and guess what Ellen White did? Same as Southern, she PRAYED. And he came back because PRAYER IS POWERFUL, and actually works when you HAVE FAITH.</p>
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		By: Jane		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jane]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Apr 2023 20:44:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[It was not at all a cop out! I don&#039;t stand with the fight night, and the students are deceiving themselves with it, but people like you who misunderstand the gospel make all of this worse! First of all, they are not &quot;doing it for money&quot;, that makes no sense. They LOST donors over the misunderstanding of the fight night being publicized in their newspaper. It was an oversight by a professor who was supposed to uphold university values, and now Southern administration will personally review the publications before they go out because they were against any promotion of this event. Students are claiming that Southern is stealing their &quot;free speech&quot; of the press, but Southern is standing strong. 

These kids are OLDER THAN 18, and ARE OF AGE to make decisions and USE THEIR FRONTAL LOBE. What they do off campus is not the fault of the university. Even though they SHOULD uphold the university&#039;s values off campus, they cannot be forced. God never uses force, it is the method of Satan, and Ellen White addresses this very thing! Her own son wore watches and read novels in front of her when he was going through his rebellious phase, and though he knew how she felt, she DID NOT KICK HIM OUT OF THE CHURCH as you are suggesting. 

The biggest thing I took from this article is how WEAK you seem to think prayer is. REALLY? the University praying is now considered a weak course of action? What do you want them to chain the kids up to the dorm?? How little you understand God and the gospel. The seeds of prayer are small yet POWERFUL, to the point where God can even save the thief on the cross at his very last breath, after rebelling and doing MUCH WORSE than these kids are doing. 

How interesting, that you did not bold this statement, “No church officer should advise, no committee should recommend, nor should any church vote, that the name of a wrong-doer shall be removed from the church books, until the instruction given by Christ has been faithfully followed.&quot; The students HAVE BEEN WARNED  and the sin CALLED BY ITS NAME, but God never EVER REMOVES FREE WILL. Get your gospel right first before you go preaching at everyone. 

&quot;Dealing with sin in the way God expects&quot;. Read your Bible. God does not force, but touches the heart through small seeds over time. I do not work for SAU, but I happen to know that all of the staff vowed not to go, and they were in fact, not present at the event, according to the creator of the event who stated publicly that no southern staff endorsed or appeared.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It was not at all a cop out! I don&#8217;t stand with the fight night, and the students are deceiving themselves with it, but people like you who misunderstand the gospel make all of this worse! First of all, they are not &#8220;doing it for money&#8221;, that makes no sense. They LOST donors over the misunderstanding of the fight night being publicized in their newspaper. It was an oversight by a professor who was supposed to uphold university values, and now Southern administration will personally review the publications before they go out because they were against any promotion of this event. Students are claiming that Southern is stealing their &#8220;free speech&#8221; of the press, but Southern is standing strong. </p>
<p>These kids are OLDER THAN 18, and ARE OF AGE to make decisions and USE THEIR FRONTAL LOBE. What they do off campus is not the fault of the university. Even though they SHOULD uphold the university&#8217;s values off campus, they cannot be forced. God never uses force, it is the method of Satan, and Ellen White addresses this very thing! Her own son wore watches and read novels in front of her when he was going through his rebellious phase, and though he knew how she felt, she DID NOT KICK HIM OUT OF THE CHURCH as you are suggesting. </p>
<p>The biggest thing I took from this article is how WEAK you seem to think prayer is. REALLY? the University praying is now considered a weak course of action? What do you want them to chain the kids up to the dorm?? How little you understand God and the gospel. The seeds of prayer are small yet POWERFUL, to the point where God can even save the thief on the cross at his very last breath, after rebelling and doing MUCH WORSE than these kids are doing. </p>
<p>How interesting, that you did not bold this statement, “No church officer should advise, no committee should recommend, nor should any church vote, that the name of a wrong-doer shall be removed from the church books, until the instruction given by Christ has been faithfully followed.&#8221; The students HAVE BEEN WARNED  and the sin CALLED BY ITS NAME, but God never EVER REMOVES FREE WILL. Get your gospel right first before you go preaching at everyone. </p>
<p>&#8220;Dealing with sin in the way God expects&#8221;. Read your Bible. God does not force, but touches the heart through small seeds over time. I do not work for SAU, but I happen to know that all of the staff vowed not to go, and they were in fact, not present at the event, according to the creator of the event who stated publicly that no southern staff endorsed or appeared.</p>
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		By: marie+Louisy		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[marie+Louisy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Apr 2023 08:05:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Bonjour,lorsque le peuple d&#039;Israël était dans le désert ,il est dit qu&#039;un homme sortie le jour du sabbat pour y ramasser du bois,celui-ci fût ,puni pour avoir désobéit,en faisant ce qui n&#039;était pas permis de faire ce jour,qui est consacre a L&#039;éternel,mais faire ce genre de manifestation,que ce soit après,avant,où n&#039;importe quel jour,cela ne devrait pas se produire,en plus les responsables adventistes étaient bien au courant de la chose.Mais quelle tristesse.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bonjour,lorsque le peuple d&#8217;Israël était dans le désert ,il est dit qu&#8217;un homme sortie le jour du sabbat pour y ramasser du bois,celui-ci fût ,puni pour avoir désobéit,en faisant ce qui n&#8217;était pas permis de faire ce jour,qui est consacre a L&#8217;éternel,mais faire ce genre de manifestation,que ce soit après,avant,où n&#8217;importe quel jour,cela ne devrait pas se produire,en plus les responsables adventistes étaient bien au courant de la chose.Mais quelle tristesse.</p>
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		By: Kim S.		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kim S.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Apr 2023 17:22:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[This is so sad. I attended Southern in the early 80&#039;s, back then a student could be expelled for attended a rock concert or going to a movie theater, both off campus, whether during Sabbath hours or not. My how things have changed and not in a good way. 
I pray God does not remove his hand of protection from this university and that the university will focus on teaching and counseling all who attend and instruct the ways of the Lord and that we are to be in this world and not of this world.
What would make students even want to attend this event much less participate? Something is very wrong within the church, schools, universities and yes, the homes that our young people if they think physical violence in any form is &quot;okay&quot; to watch much less attend an event where the &quot;doors open&quot; during Sabbath hours. Praying they hear God&#039;s direction and that the university will step up and give Godly direction to they young adults.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is so sad. I attended Southern in the early 80&#8217;s, back then a student could be expelled for attended a rock concert or going to a movie theater, both off campus, whether during Sabbath hours or not. My how things have changed and not in a good way.<br />
I pray God does not remove his hand of protection from this university and that the university will focus on teaching and counseling all who attend and instruct the ways of the Lord and that we are to be in this world and not of this world.<br />
What would make students even want to attend this event much less participate? Something is very wrong within the church, schools, universities and yes, the homes that our young people if they think physical violence in any form is &#8220;okay&#8221; to watch much less attend an event where the &#8220;doors open&#8221; during Sabbath hours. Praying they hear God&#8217;s direction and that the university will step up and give Godly direction to they young adults.</p>
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		By: LINDA F TAYLOR		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[LINDA F TAYLOR]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Apr 2023 11:00:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Too little, too late!!! What a copout. This is a joke, the school making a statement like they did. They should have stopped it last year when it got started.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Too little, too late!!! What a copout. This is a joke, the school making a statement like they did. They should have stopped it last year when it got started.</p>
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		By: Concerned Member		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Concerned Member]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Apr 2023 10:14:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Those who seduce our students into sin should be given an ultimatum. Cease and repent or goodbye.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Those who seduce our students into sin should be given an ultimatum. Cease and repent or goodbye.</p>
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		By: John B.		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John B.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Apr 2023 08:21:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[So basically, are they going to tolerate an open rebellion on campus?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So basically, are they going to tolerate an open rebellion on campus?</p>
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