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		By: Gary Kimes		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Gary Kimes]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Aug 2023 05:56:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I find it interesting the degree to which our GC leadership is a mirror image in so many ways to the tyranny we are seeing in state leadership and the degree that it reveals just how imbued our church is with political correctness.  In fact America&#039;s hallmark freedom OF conscience is quickly morphing into the freedom from owning a conscience.  Is not the hallmark of Christianity ALSO freedom of conscience?  Is what we are witnessing here not the state&#039;s take over of Christianity in many ways? Is it not revealing that love itself is now the elimination of moral boundary?  Seems to me too that science has commensurately morphed into a government and now GC owned commodity and given the tightening of our families funds after the past 3 years Im really struggling to know just why we should be tithing to a leadership that is so obviously censoring both spiritual and scientific truths.  It really sickens me as someone who came BACK into adventism after 40 years on the convicting wings of SDA eschatology and found a church I certainly did not recognize.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I find it interesting the degree to which our GC leadership is a mirror image in so many ways to the tyranny we are seeing in state leadership and the degree that it reveals just how imbued our church is with political correctness.  In fact America&#8217;s hallmark freedom OF conscience is quickly morphing into the freedom from owning a conscience.  Is not the hallmark of Christianity ALSO freedom of conscience?  Is what we are witnessing here not the state&#8217;s take over of Christianity in many ways? Is it not revealing that love itself is now the elimination of moral boundary?  Seems to me too that science has commensurately morphed into a government and now GC owned commodity and given the tightening of our families funds after the past 3 years Im really struggling to know just why we should be tithing to a leadership that is so obviously censoring both spiritual and scientific truths.  It really sickens me as someone who came BACK into adventism after 40 years on the convicting wings of SDA eschatology and found a church I certainly did not recognize.</p>
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		By: Joe		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Joe]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Mar 2023 18:30:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[We are seeing so many churches being overrun with every wind of doctrine, every kind of unholy teachings. Soon we will even see the collapse of some of our conferences because they have given up our message as some pastors have already done. There are very few pastors who preach the 3angels messages now and some conferences fire those pastors who preach it. God is going to have a people who will not bow to Caesar or diminish our messages. We are so thankful for Pastor Conrad Vine at this time. Our leaders are giving in to the world to keep their government money coming in rather than standing up for truth and justice for Gods people. The love of money will be their doom.
We are at the end of time people! We many only have a couple of years at best. Stand true and stand tall for Gods standards no matter the cost.
&quot;Freedom is not the right to do as we please, but the opportunity to do what is right.&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We are seeing so many churches being overrun with every wind of doctrine, every kind of unholy teachings. Soon we will even see the collapse of some of our conferences because they have given up our message as some pastors have already done. There are very few pastors who preach the 3angels messages now and some conferences fire those pastors who preach it. God is going to have a people who will not bow to Caesar or diminish our messages. We are so thankful for Pastor Conrad Vine at this time. Our leaders are giving in to the world to keep their government money coming in rather than standing up for truth and justice for Gods people. The love of money will be their doom.<br />
We are at the end of time people! We many only have a couple of years at best. Stand true and stand tall for Gods standards no matter the cost.<br />
&#8220;Freedom is not the right to do as we please, but the opportunity to do what is right.&#8221;</p>
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		By: Barb		</title>
		<link>https://adventmessenger.org/the-dire-consequences-of-a-renegade-general-conference/comment-page-1/#comment-34754</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Barb]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Mar 2023 18:30:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://adventmessenger.org/the-dire-consequences-of-a-renegade-general-conference/comment-page-1/#comment-33988&quot;&gt;Tony Haarman&lt;/a&gt;.

AMEN !!! Well said and I have been saying this from day one, especially when other demonizations in the USA and Canada were standing up.   Pastors were arrested and stood there ground.  Where were we?  WHERE WERE WE????  So incredibly sad.  I never ever would have believed it if you told me this would be our response.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://adventmessenger.org/the-dire-consequences-of-a-renegade-general-conference/comment-page-1/#comment-33988">Tony Haarman</a>.</p>
<p>AMEN !!! Well said and I have been saying this from day one, especially when other demonizations in the USA and Canada were standing up.   Pastors were arrested and stood there ground.  Where were we?  WHERE WERE WE????  So incredibly sad.  I never ever would have believed it if you told me this would be our response.</p>
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		By: Barb		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Barb]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Mar 2023 18:21:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://adventmessenger.org/the-dire-consequences-of-a-renegade-general-conference/comment-page-1/#comment-33968&quot;&gt;Stephen De Bruyn&lt;/a&gt;.

I only hope this makes it onto the vote…..
My sincere heartfelt question is :  Where do we go from here?   Are there any practical suggestions ?  What can I do as a sincere, clear thinking, rational, Holy Spirit lead SDA loving person to affect the or make change occur?    I am one, my husband makes two we know there are others, but what can we do?    Thank you in advance for your prayerful, thoughtful and kind replies.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://adventmessenger.org/the-dire-consequences-of-a-renegade-general-conference/comment-page-1/#comment-33968">Stephen De Bruyn</a>.</p>
<p>I only hope this makes it onto the vote…..<br />
My sincere heartfelt question is :  Where do we go from here?   Are there any practical suggestions ?  What can I do as a sincere, clear thinking, rational, Holy Spirit lead SDA loving person to affect the or make change occur?    I am one, my husband makes two we know there are others, but what can we do?    Thank you in advance for your prayerful, thoughtful and kind replies.</p>
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		By: Barb		</title>
		<link>https://adventmessenger.org/the-dire-consequences-of-a-renegade-general-conference/comment-page-1/#comment-34751</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Barb]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Mar 2023 18:11:46 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://adventmessenger.org/the-dire-consequences-of-a-renegade-general-conference/comment-page-1/#comment-33975&quot;&gt;Carol+Ann&lt;/a&gt;.

Amen !  <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f64f-1f3fb.png" alt="🙏🏻" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://adventmessenger.org/the-dire-consequences-of-a-renegade-general-conference/comment-page-1/#comment-33975">Carol+Ann</a>.</p>
<p>Amen !  🙏🏻</p>
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		By: MH		</title>
		<link>https://adventmessenger.org/the-dire-consequences-of-a-renegade-general-conference/comment-page-1/#comment-34230</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[MH]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Mar 2023 17:33:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Thanks for sharing Isaiah chapter 10 which gets to the point. However just to add to your comment, the previous chapter - Isaiah 9:8-21 also tells us of a reorganization (which sis White also told us in Selected Messages book 1 page 204.2) and what God is going to do about it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for sharing Isaiah chapter 10 which gets to the point. However just to add to your comment, the previous chapter &#8211; Isaiah 9:8-21 also tells us of a reorganization (which sis White also told us in Selected Messages book 1 page 204.2) and what God is going to do about it.</p>
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		By: Morgan Polsky		</title>
		<link>https://adventmessenger.org/the-dire-consequences-of-a-renegade-general-conference/comment-page-1/#comment-34151</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Morgan Polsky]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Feb 2023 23:55:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The end time Prophet says that the General Conference has built its structure on the sinking sand and it will be swept away. The GC has not been the voice of God for sometime now, and if it is not the voice of God then whose voice is it. I tell you that since Ellen White died the conference has steadily marched back to Egypt and sealed their fate when they officially became a Catholic vassal in accepting the Trinity into their core 28 fundamental beliefs in 1980. They will never change and as Israel of old was plowed like a field so will the SDA Church be plowed as a field and the leadership will face the wrath of an offended God and will be punished first. These leaders know what they are doing just as the scribes and pharisees knew what they were doing. They are in open rebellion against God and His Son and have taken their side on the Great Controversy and it is not the right side. May God call these individual souls to come out of her my people, but as for the structure it is time to come out of her my people.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The end time Prophet says that the General Conference has built its structure on the sinking sand and it will be swept away. The GC has not been the voice of God for sometime now, and if it is not the voice of God then whose voice is it. I tell you that since Ellen White died the conference has steadily marched back to Egypt and sealed their fate when they officially became a Catholic vassal in accepting the Trinity into their core 28 fundamental beliefs in 1980. They will never change and as Israel of old was plowed like a field so will the SDA Church be plowed as a field and the leadership will face the wrath of an offended God and will be punished first. These leaders know what they are doing just as the scribes and pharisees knew what they were doing. They are in open rebellion against God and His Son and have taken their side on the Great Controversy and it is not the right side. May God call these individual souls to come out of her my people, but as for the structure it is time to come out of her my people.</p>
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		By: Patti		</title>
		<link>https://adventmessenger.org/the-dire-consequences-of-a-renegade-general-conference/comment-page-1/#comment-34066</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Patti]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Feb 2023 01:49:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The Lord told me very specifically what He thought about what happened at the GC last June.    Isaiah 10:1-4 is what God has to say about it.  And Isaiah 10:5-6 tells us what He is going to do about it.  God is our only help in what is coming!!  But know it is coming through the worldwide Socialistic System that has &quot;gathered all the earth&quot;.  Isaiah 10:13-14.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Lord told me very specifically what He thought about what happened at the GC last June.    Isaiah 10:1-4 is what God has to say about it.  And Isaiah 10:5-6 tells us what He is going to do about it.  God is our only help in what is coming!!  But know it is coming through the worldwide Socialistic System that has &#8220;gathered all the earth&#8221;.  Isaiah 10:13-14.</p>
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		By: Patti		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Patti]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Feb 2023 01:40:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Galatians 5:1     Stand fast therefore in the liberty wherewith Christ has made us free, and be not entangled again with the yoke of bondage.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Galatians 5:1     Stand fast therefore in the liberty wherewith Christ has made us free, and be not entangled again with the yoke of bondage.</p>
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