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		By: Joe		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jan 2025 06:29:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://adventmessenger.org/the-great-adventist-controversy/comment-page-1/#comment-54906&quot;&gt;Marja&lt;/a&gt;.

No church will produce a petition because that church&#039;s GC pastor will NOT jeopardize his cushy conference job and pension.]]></description>
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<p>No church will produce a petition because that church&#8217;s GC pastor will NOT jeopardize his cushy conference job and pension.</p>
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		By: Nancy		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 23 May 2024 18:28:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I just heard yesterday that Dr. Ganoune Diop suffered a cardiac arrest and was hospitalized at Johns Hopkins in Maryland, and that a meeting was cancelled where he would be speaking on May 18, 2024, but I have not heard how he is doing now. Is he still in the hospital?  Is he okay or not?  Concerned.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just heard yesterday that Dr. Ganoune Diop suffered a cardiac arrest and was hospitalized at Johns Hopkins in Maryland, and that a meeting was cancelled where he would be speaking on May 18, 2024, but I have not heard how he is doing now. Is he still in the hospital?  Is he okay or not?  Concerned.</p>
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		By: Shawn Speidel		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 04 May 2024 11:57:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://adventmessenger.org/the-great-adventist-controversy/comment-page-1/#comment-54898&quot;&gt;Jason&lt;/a&gt;.

As I look up the word “fundamental principles” in the EGW app just now it comes up with 86 hits in Mrs. White’s writings. God is speaking through His human agent here and from what I read there are fundamental principles in a variety of topics like this nation being founded on republicanism and Protestantism, about education, about dress reform, about temperance and especially regarding our Seventh-day Adventist faith which is quite distinct and non-Babylonian. It is refreshingly clear and pointed and defined. I believe the Fundamental Principles of 1872 and 1889 are accurate. The 1889 version was reprinted pretty much yearly until 1 year (1914) before Mrs. White died. These Fundamental Principles are what make us what we are… Seventh-day Adventists. 

It is not a ®&#xfe0f; that makes us Seventh-day Adventists (see the USPTO.gov website for what names are®&#xfe0f; and notice it started in 1980).The main one is this next link which started before the GC Session of 1980. To me the GC Session of that year started the new organization publicly opposed to God and what HE stands for. It was a public denouncing of our pioneer doctrines in favor of ecumenical and evangelical doctrines so that we could be “recognized” like the Diops of today so desperately desire. 

https://tsdr.uspto.gov/#caseNumber=73261136&#038;caseSearchType=US_APPLICATION&#038;caseType=DEFAULT&#038;searchType=statusSearch 

The original Seventh-day Adventists were on the platform of eternal truth and they would have spotted Diop long ago as an apostate just by the fruits of his lips and his actions and from where he was educated. How stupid we have become to hire people from Jesuit universities. (See also https://www.nadadventist.org/nad_directory/staff/Melissa--Reid ). Do we think we can educate with the Jesuits and not become like them?

I request each person who reads this to check out in detail this chapter entitled “The Foundation of Our Faith” from SpTB02 51-59. This is one amazing chapter!

The final paragraph says this:

“ We are God&#039;s commandment-keeping people. For the past fifty years every phase of heresy has been brought to bear upon us, to becloud our minds regarding the teaching of the word,—especially concerning the ministration of Christ in the heavenly sanctuary, and the message of heaven for these last days, as given by the angels of the fourteenth chapter of Revelation. Messages of every order and kind have been urged upon Seventh-day Adventists, to take the place of the truth which, point by point, has been sought out by prayerful study, and testified to by the miracle-working power of the Lord. But the way-marks which have made us what we are, are to be preserved, and they will be preserved, as God has signified through His word and the testimony of His Spirit. He calls upon us to hold firmly, with the grip of faith, to the fundamental principles that are based upon unquestionable authority.” SpTB02 58.2-SpTB02 59.1

An organization that doesn’t uphold these fundamental principles is the new organization. We are not authorized by God (a personal spiritual being) nor His Son Jesus Christ to hold onto this new organization. It is joining to its idols and must be left alone to reap what it has sown. The people inside must be warned so they can grip with a grip of faith these “ fundamental principles that are based upon unquestionable authority”. We must hold onto to Christ who is our head whose head is God. 

Really…who are we to question God and how he led us as a people?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://adventmessenger.org/the-great-adventist-controversy/comment-page-1/#comment-54898">Jason</a>.</p>
<p>As I look up the word “fundamental principles” in the EGW app just now it comes up with 86 hits in Mrs. White’s writings. God is speaking through His human agent here and from what I read there are fundamental principles in a variety of topics like this nation being founded on republicanism and Protestantism, about education, about dress reform, about temperance and especially regarding our Seventh-day Adventist faith which is quite distinct and non-Babylonian. It is refreshingly clear and pointed and defined. I believe the Fundamental Principles of 1872 and 1889 are accurate. The 1889 version was reprinted pretty much yearly until 1 year (1914) before Mrs. White died. These Fundamental Principles are what make us what we are… Seventh-day Adventists. </p>
<p>It is not a ®️ that makes us Seventh-day Adventists (see the USPTO.gov website for what names are®️ and notice it started in 1980).The main one is this next link which started before the GC Session of 1980. To me the GC Session of that year started the new organization publicly opposed to God and what HE stands for. It was a public denouncing of our pioneer doctrines in favor of ecumenical and evangelical doctrines so that we could be “recognized” like the Diops of today so desperately desire. </p>
<p><a href="https://tsdr.uspto.gov/#caseNumber=73261136&#038;caseSearchType=US_APPLICATION&#038;caseType=DEFAULT&#038;searchType=statusSearch" rel="nofollow ugc">https://tsdr.uspto.gov/#caseNumber=73261136&#038;caseSearchType=US_APPLICATION&#038;caseType=DEFAULT&#038;searchType=statusSearch</a> </p>
<p>The original Seventh-day Adventists were on the platform of eternal truth and they would have spotted Diop long ago as an apostate just by the fruits of his lips and his actions and from where he was educated. How stupid we have become to hire people from Jesuit universities. (See also <a href="https://www.nadadventist.org/nad_directory/staff/Melissa--Reid" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.nadadventist.org/nad_directory/staff/Melissa&#8211;Reid</a> ). Do we think we can educate with the Jesuits and not become like them?</p>
<p>I request each person who reads this to check out in detail this chapter entitled “The Foundation of Our Faith” from SpTB02 51-59. This is one amazing chapter!</p>
<p>The final paragraph says this:</p>
<p>“ We are God&#8217;s commandment-keeping people. For the past fifty years every phase of heresy has been brought to bear upon us, to becloud our minds regarding the teaching of the word,—especially concerning the ministration of Christ in the heavenly sanctuary, and the message of heaven for these last days, as given by the angels of the fourteenth chapter of Revelation. Messages of every order and kind have been urged upon Seventh-day Adventists, to take the place of the truth which, point by point, has been sought out by prayerful study, and testified to by the miracle-working power of the Lord. But the way-marks which have made us what we are, are to be preserved, and they will be preserved, as God has signified through His word and the testimony of His Spirit. He calls upon us to hold firmly, with the grip of faith, to the fundamental principles that are based upon unquestionable authority.” SpTB02 58.2-SpTB02 59.1</p>
<p>An organization that doesn’t uphold these fundamental principles is the new organization. We are not authorized by God (a personal spiritual being) nor His Son Jesus Christ to hold onto this new organization. It is joining to its idols and must be left alone to reap what it has sown. The people inside must be warned so they can grip with a grip of faith these “ fundamental principles that are based upon unquestionable authority”. We must hold onto to Christ who is our head whose head is God. </p>
<p>Really…who are we to question God and how he led us as a people?</p>
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		By: YesMsJane		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Apr 2024 01:23:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[{God holds his people, as a body, responsible for sins existing in individuals among them. If there is a neglect with the leaders of the church to diligently search out the sins which bring the displeasure of God upon his people as a body, they become responsible for these sins. But this is the nicest work that men ever engaged in, to deal with minds. All are not fitted to correct the erring. They have not wisdom to deal justly, while loving mercy. They will not be inclined to see the necessity of mingling love and tender compassion with faithful reproof of wrongs. Some will ever be needlessly severe, and will not feel the necessity of the injunction of the apostle, “And of some have compassion, making a difference; and others save with fear, pulling them out of the fire.” There are many who do not have the discretion of Joshua, and who have no special duty to search out wrongs, and to deal promptly with the sins existing among them. Let not such hinder those who have the burden of this work upon them. Let them not stand in the way of those who have this duty to do. Some make it a point to question, and doubt, and find fault, because others do the work that God has not laid upon themselves. These stand directly in the way to hinder those upon whom God has laid the burden of reproof, and of correcting the sins that are prevailing, that his frown may be turned away from his people. Should a case like Achan&#039;s be among us, there are many who would accuse those who might act the part of Joshua in searching out the wrong, of having a fault-finding, wicked spirit. God is not to be trifled with, and his warnings disregarded with impunity by a perverse people RH June 8, 1886, par. 7}]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>{God holds his people, as a body, responsible for sins existing in individuals among them. If there is a neglect with the leaders of the church to diligently search out the sins which bring the displeasure of God upon his people as a body, they become responsible for these sins. But this is the nicest work that men ever engaged in, to deal with minds. All are not fitted to correct the erring. They have not wisdom to deal justly, while loving mercy. They will not be inclined to see the necessity of mingling love and tender compassion with faithful reproof of wrongs. Some will ever be needlessly severe, and will not feel the necessity of the injunction of the apostle, “And of some have compassion, making a difference; and others save with fear, pulling them out of the fire.” There are many who do not have the discretion of Joshua, and who have no special duty to search out wrongs, and to deal promptly with the sins existing among them. Let not such hinder those who have the burden of this work upon them. Let them not stand in the way of those who have this duty to do. Some make it a point to question, and doubt, and find fault, because others do the work that God has not laid upon themselves. These stand directly in the way to hinder those upon whom God has laid the burden of reproof, and of correcting the sins that are prevailing, that his frown may be turned away from his people. Should a case like Achan&#8217;s be among us, there are many who would accuse those who might act the part of Joshua in searching out the wrong, of having a fault-finding, wicked spirit. God is not to be trifled with, and his warnings disregarded with impunity by a perverse people RH June 8, 1886, par. 7}</p>
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		By: Jug		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jug]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Apr 2024 12:24:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://adventmessenger.org/the-great-adventist-controversy/comment-page-1/#comment-54899&quot;&gt;Paula&lt;/a&gt;.

My only problem is that we were always called to be in peace and in unity .. as Christian’s in general so that was a moot point by him . It’s when our denomination because apologetics and then attempt to appease with gravity of dismissing our qualifying contending points as a church .. we have an issue]]></description>
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<p>My only problem is that we were always called to be in peace and in unity .. as Christian’s in general so that was a moot point by him . It’s when our denomination because apologetics and then attempt to appease with gravity of dismissing our qualifying contending points as a church .. we have an issue</p>
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		By: David Burdick		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[David Burdick]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Apr 2024 12:59:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;Idolaters were led to receive a part of the Christian faith, while they rejected other essential truths. They professed to accept Jesus as the Son of God and to believe in His death and resurrection, but they had no conviction of sin and felt no need of repentance or of a change of heart. With some concessions on their part they proposed that Christians should make concessions, that all might unite on the platform of belief in Christ.&quot; GC42

&quot;They dared not tolerate errors fatal to their own souls, and set an example which would imperil the faith of their children and children&#039;s children. To secure peace and unity they were ready to make any concession consistent with fidelity to God; but they felt that even peace would be too dearly purchased at the sacrifice of principle. If unity could be secured only by the compromise of truth and righteousness, then let there be difference, and even war. 

Well would it be for the church and the world if the principles that actuated those steadfast souls were revived in the hearts of God&#039;s professed people. There is an alarming indifference in regard to the doctrines which are the pillars of the Christian faith....&quot; GC 45,46]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Idolaters were led to receive a part of the Christian faith, while they rejected other essential truths. They professed to accept Jesus as the Son of God and to believe in His death and resurrection, but they had no conviction of sin and felt no need of repentance or of a change of heart. With some concessions on their part they proposed that Christians should make concessions, that all might unite on the platform of belief in Christ.&#8221; GC42</p>
<p>&#8220;They dared not tolerate errors fatal to their own souls, and set an example which would imperil the faith of their children and children&#8217;s children. To secure peace and unity they were ready to make any concession consistent with fidelity to God; but they felt that even peace would be too dearly purchased at the sacrifice of principle. If unity could be secured only by the compromise of truth and righteousness, then let there be difference, and even war. </p>
<p>Well would it be for the church and the world if the principles that actuated those steadfast souls were revived in the hearts of God&#8217;s professed people. There is an alarming indifference in regard to the doctrines which are the pillars of the Christian faith&#8230;.&#8221; GC 45,46</p>
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		By: Jon		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jon]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Apr 2024 04:07:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[*&#039;Her priests have violated my law, and have profaned mine holy things: they have put no difference between the holy and profane, neither have they shewed difference between the unclean and the clean, and have hid their eyes from my Sabbaths, and I am profaned among them.&#039;* Ezekiel 22:26!

In Ezekiel 22 we meet a catalogue of sins prevailing in Jerusalem before its destruction. Outstanding in the list is murder and idolatry *(see Ezekiel 22:3).* Priests were supposed to stop the rot by standing in for God. *&quot;For the priest’s lips should keep knowledge, and they should seek the law at his mouth: for he is the messenger of the LORD of hosts.&quot;* Malach 2:7. Unfortunately priests were leaders in lawlessness and violating the Sabbath - the day God set aside for holy assembly and instruction of the masses *(see Leviticus 23:2-3).* The legacy of lawlessness and Sabbath desecration was repeated in the Dark Ages. The cycle of lawlessness and Sabbath desecration will be at the centre of the Mark of the Beast controversy *(see Revelation 14:9-11).*

_The Sabbath will be the great test of loyalty, for it is the point of truth especially controverted. When the final test shall be brought to bear upon men, then the line of distinction will be drawn between those who serve God and those who serve Him not. While the observance of the false sabbath in compliance with the law of the state, contrary to the fourth commandment, will be an avowal of allegiance to a power that is in opposition to God, the keeping of the true Sabbath, in obedience to God’s law, is an evidence of loyalty to the Creator. While one class, by accepting the sign of submission to earthly powers, receive the mark of the beast, the other choosing the token of allegiance to divine authority, receive the seal of God._

_Heretofore those who presented the truths of the third angel’s message have often been regarded as mere alarmists. Their predictions that religious intolerance would gain control in the United States, that church and state would unite to persecute those who keep the commandments of God, have been pronounced groundless and absurd. It has been confidently declared that this land could never become other than what it has been—the defender of religious freedom. But as the question of enforcing Sunday observance is widely agitated, the event so long doubted and disbelieved is seen to be approaching, and the third message will produce an effect which it could not have had before._ [GC 605.3]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>*&#8217;Her priests have violated my law, and have profaned mine holy things: they have put no difference between the holy and profane, neither have they shewed difference between the unclean and the clean, and have hid their eyes from my Sabbaths, and I am profaned among them.&#8217;* Ezekiel 22:26!</p>
<p>In Ezekiel 22 we meet a catalogue of sins prevailing in Jerusalem before its destruction. Outstanding in the list is murder and idolatry *(see Ezekiel 22:3).* Priests were supposed to stop the rot by standing in for God. *&#8221;For the priest’s lips should keep knowledge, and they should seek the law at his mouth: for he is the messenger of the LORD of hosts.&#8221;* Malach 2:7. Unfortunately priests were leaders in lawlessness and violating the Sabbath &#8211; the day God set aside for holy assembly and instruction of the masses *(see Leviticus 23:2-3).* The legacy of lawlessness and Sabbath desecration was repeated in the Dark Ages. The cycle of lawlessness and Sabbath desecration will be at the centre of the Mark of the Beast controversy *(see Revelation 14:9-11).*</p>
<p>_The Sabbath will be the great test of loyalty, for it is the point of truth especially controverted. When the final test shall be brought to bear upon men, then the line of distinction will be drawn between those who serve God and those who serve Him not. While the observance of the false sabbath in compliance with the law of the state, contrary to the fourth commandment, will be an avowal of allegiance to a power that is in opposition to God, the keeping of the true Sabbath, in obedience to God’s law, is an evidence of loyalty to the Creator. While one class, by accepting the sign of submission to earthly powers, receive the mark of the beast, the other choosing the token of allegiance to divine authority, receive the seal of God._</p>
<p>_Heretofore those who presented the truths of the third angel’s message have often been regarded as mere alarmists. Their predictions that religious intolerance would gain control in the United States, that church and state would unite to persecute those who keep the commandments of God, have been pronounced groundless and absurd. It has been confidently declared that this land could never become other than what it has been—the defender of religious freedom. But as the question of enforcing Sunday observance is widely agitated, the event so long doubted and disbelieved is seen to be approaching, and the third message will produce an effect which it could not have had before._ [GC 605.3]</p>
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		By: Michel Herman		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Apr 2024 09:40:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://adventmessenger.org/the-great-adventist-controversy/comment-page-1/#comment-54917&quot;&gt;Nathan&lt;/a&gt;.

Amen brother. And also:

 I know that the Lord loves His church. It is not to be disorganized or broken up into independent atoms. There is not the least consistency in this; there is not the least evidence that such a thing will be.—Selected Messages 2:63, 68, 69 (1893). LDE 51.3

I tell you, my brethren, the Lord has an organized body through whom He will work.... When anyone is drawing apart from the organized body of God&#039;s commandment-keeping people, when he begins to weigh the church in his human scales and begins to  pronounce judgment against them, then you may know that God is not leading him. He is on the wrong track.—Selected Messages 3:17, 18 (1893). LDE 51.4]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://adventmessenger.org/the-great-adventist-controversy/comment-page-1/#comment-54917">Nathan</a>.</p>
<p>Amen brother. And also:</p>
<p> I know that the Lord loves His church. It is not to be disorganized or broken up into independent atoms. There is not the least consistency in this; there is not the least evidence that such a thing will be.—Selected Messages 2:63, 68, 69 (1893). LDE 51.3</p>
<p>I tell you, my brethren, the Lord has an organized body through whom He will work&#8230;. When anyone is drawing apart from the organized body of God&#8217;s commandment-keeping people, when he begins to weigh the church in his human scales and begins to  pronounce judgment against them, then you may know that God is not leading him. He is on the wrong track.—Selected Messages 3:17, 18 (1893). LDE 51.4</p>
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		By: Tim		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tim]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Apr 2024 23:24:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://adventmessenger.org/the-great-adventist-controversy/comment-page-1/#comment-54917&quot;&gt;Nathan&lt;/a&gt;.

“In the representations the Lord has given me, I have seen those who follow their own desires, misrepresenting the truth, oppressing their brethren, and placing difficulties before them. Characters are now being developed, and men are taking sides, some on the side of the Lord Jesus Christ, some on the side of Satan and his angels. The Lord calls for all who will be true and obedient to His law to come out of and away from all connection with those who placed themselves on the side of the enemy.” -Letter 256, August 1, 1906 &#038; Last Day Events fro the Letters and Manuscripts of E.G. White, p 94 &#038; This Day With God, p 222


&quot;The enemy of souls, has sought to bring in the supposition that a great reformation was to take place among Seventh-day Adventists, and that this reformation would consist in giving up the doctrines which stand as the pillars of our faith , and engaging in a process of reorganization. Were this reformation to take place, what would result?—The principles of truth that God in His wisdom has given to the remnant church would be discarded. Our religion would be changed . The fundamental principles that has sustained the work for the last fifty years would be accounted as error. A new organization would be established. Books of a new order would be written. A system of intellectual philosophy would be introduced . The founders of this system would go into the cities and do a wonderful work. The Sabbath, of course, would be lightly regarded, as also the God who created it. Nothing would be allowed to stand in the way of the new movement. The leaders would teach that virtue is better than vice, but God being removed, they would place their dependence on human power, which without God, is worthless. Their foundation would be built upton the sand, and storm and tempest would sweep away the structure.&quot; -Letter 242, October 1903 &#038; Special Testimonies, Series B #7, p. 36-42]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://adventmessenger.org/the-great-adventist-controversy/comment-page-1/#comment-54917">Nathan</a>.</p>
<p>“In the representations the Lord has given me, I have seen those who follow their own desires, misrepresenting the truth, oppressing their brethren, and placing difficulties before them. Characters are now being developed, and men are taking sides, some on the side of the Lord Jesus Christ, some on the side of Satan and his angels. The Lord calls for all who will be true and obedient to His law to come out of and away from all connection with those who placed themselves on the side of the enemy.” -Letter 256, August 1, 1906 &amp; Last Day Events fro the Letters and Manuscripts of E.G. White, p 94 &amp; This Day With God, p 222</p>
<p>&#8220;The enemy of souls, has sought to bring in the supposition that a great reformation was to take place among Seventh-day Adventists, and that this reformation would consist in giving up the doctrines which stand as the pillars of our faith , and engaging in a process of reorganization. Were this reformation to take place, what would result?—The principles of truth that God in His wisdom has given to the remnant church would be discarded. Our religion would be changed . The fundamental principles that has sustained the work for the last fifty years would be accounted as error. A new organization would be established. Books of a new order would be written. A system of intellectual philosophy would be introduced . The founders of this system would go into the cities and do a wonderful work. The Sabbath, of course, would be lightly regarded, as also the God who created it. Nothing would be allowed to stand in the way of the new movement. The leaders would teach that virtue is better than vice, but God being removed, they would place their dependence on human power, which without God, is worthless. Their foundation would be built upton the sand, and storm and tempest would sweep away the structure.&#8221; -Letter 242, October 1903 &amp; Special Testimonies, Series B #7, p. 36-42</p>
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