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		By: Keith		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[The Only Path To Tomorrow
Ayn Rand

Readers Digest, January 1944, pp. 88-90

The greatest threat to mankind and civilization is the spread of the totalitarian philosophy. Its best ally is not the devotion of its followers but the confusion of its enemies. To fight it, we must understand it. 

Totalitarianism is collectivism. Collectivism means the subjugation of the individual to a group — whether to a race, class or state does not matter. Collectivism holds that man must be chained to collective action and collective thought for the sake of what is called ``the common good.́́ 

Throughout history, no tyrant ever rose to power except on the claim of representing ``the common good.́́ Napoleon ``served the common good́́ of France. Hitler is ``serving the common good́́ of Germany. Horrors which no man would dare consider for his own selfish sake are perpetrated with a clear conscience by ``altruistś́ who justify themselves by-the common good. 

No tyrant has ever lasted long by force of arms alone. Men have been enslaved primarily by spiritual weapons. And the greatest of these is the collectivist doctrine that the supremacy of the state over the individual constitutes the common good. No dictator could rise if men held as a sacred faith the conviction that they have inalienable rights of which they cannot be deprived for any cause whatsoever, by any man whatsoever, neither by evildoer nor supposed benefactor. 

This is the basic tenet of individualism, as opposed to collectivism. Individualism holds that man is an independent entity with an inalienable right to the pursuit of his own happiness in a society where men deal with one another as equals. 

The American system is founded on individualism. If it is to survive, we must understand the principles of individualism and hold them as our standard in any public question, in every issue we face. We must have a positive credo, a clear consistent faith.

We must learn to reject as total evil the conception that the common good is served by the abolition of individual rights. General happiness cannot be created out of general suffering and self-immolation. The only happy society is one of happy individuals. One cannot have a healthy forest made up of rotten trees. 

The power of society must always be limited by the basic, inalienable rights of the individual. 

The right of liberty means man&#039;s right to individual action, individual choice, individual initiative and individual property. Without the right to private property no independent action is possible. 

The right to the pursuit of happiness means man&#039;s right to live for himself, to choose what constitutes his own, private, personal happiness and to work for its achievement. Each individual is the sole and final judge in this choice. A man&#039;s happiness cannot be prescribed to him by another man or by any number of other men. 

These rights are the unconditional, personal, private, individual possession of every man, granted to him by the fact of his birth and requiring no other sanction. Such was the conception of the founders of our country, who placed individual rights above any and all collective claims. Society can only be a traffic policeman in the intercourse of men with one another. 

From the beginning of history, two antagonists have stood face to face, two opposite types of men: the Active and the Passive. The Active Man is the producer, the creator, the originator, the individualist. His basic need is independence — in order to think and work. He neither needs nor seeks power over other men — nor can he be made to work under any form of compulsion. Every type of good work — from laying bricks to writing a symphony — is done by the Active Man. Degrees of human ability vary, but the basic principle remains the same: the degree of a man&#039;s independence and initiative determines his talent as a worker and his worth as a man. 

The Passive Man is found on every level of society, in mansions and in slums, and his identification mark is his dread of independence. He is a parasite who expects to be taken care of by others, who wishes to be given directives, to obey, to submit, to be regulated, to be told. He welcomes collectivism, which eliminates any chance that he might have to think or act on his own initiative. 

When a society is based on the needs of the Passive Man it destroys the Active; but when the Active is destroyed, the Passive can no longer be cared for. When a society is based on the needs of the Active Man, he carries the Passive ones along on his energy and raises them as he rises, as the whole society rises. This has been the pattern of all human progress. 

Some humanitarians demand a collective state because of their pity for the incompetent or Passive Man. For his sake they wish to harness the Active. But the Active Man cannot function in harness. And once he is destroyed, the destruction of the Passive Man follows automatically. So if pity is the humanitarians&#039; first consideration, then in the name of pity, if nothing else, they should leave the Active Man free to function, in order to help the Passive. There is no other way to help him in the long run. 

The history of mankind is the history of the struggle between the Active Man and the Passive, between the individual and the collective. The countries which have produced the happiest men, the highest standards of living and the greatest cultural advances have been the countries where the power of the collective — of the government, of the state — was limited and the individual was given freedom of independent action. As examples: The rise of Rome, with its conception of law based on a citizen&#039;s rights, over the collectivist barbarism of its time. The rise of England, with a system of government based on the Magna Carta, over collectivist, totalitarian Spain. The rise of the United States to a degree of achievement unequaled in history — by grace of the individual freedom and independence which our Constitution gave each citizen against the collective. 

While men are still pondering upon the causes of the rise and fall of civilizations, every page of history cries to us that there is but one source of progress: Individual Man in independent action. Collectivism is the ancient principle of savagery. A savage&#039;s whole existence is ruled by the leaders of his tribe. Civilization is the process of setting man free from men. 

We are now facing a choice: to go forward or to go back. 

Collectivism is not the ``New Order of Tomorrow.́́ It is the order of a very dark yesterday. But there is a New Order of Tomorrow. It belongs to Individual Man — the only creator of any tomorrows humanity has ever been granted. (Readers Digest, January 1944, pp. 88-90)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Only Path To Tomorrow<br />
Ayn Rand</p>
<p>Readers Digest, January 1944, pp. 88-90</p>
<p>The greatest threat to mankind and civilization is the spread of the totalitarian philosophy. Its best ally is not the devotion of its followers but the confusion of its enemies. To fight it, we must understand it. </p>
<p>Totalitarianism is collectivism. Collectivism means the subjugation of the individual to a group — whether to a race, class or state does not matter. Collectivism holds that man must be chained to collective action and collective thought for the sake of what is called &#8220;the common good.́́ </p>
<p>Throughout history, no tyrant ever rose to power except on the claim of representing &#8220;the common good.́́ Napoleon &#8220;served the common good́́ of France. Hitler is &#8220;serving the common good́́ of Germany. Horrors which no man would dare consider for his own selfish sake are perpetrated with a clear conscience by &#8220;altruistś́ who justify themselves by-the common good. </p>
<p>No tyrant has ever lasted long by force of arms alone. Men have been enslaved primarily by spiritual weapons. And the greatest of these is the collectivist doctrine that the supremacy of the state over the individual constitutes the common good. No dictator could rise if men held as a sacred faith the conviction that they have inalienable rights of which they cannot be deprived for any cause whatsoever, by any man whatsoever, neither by evildoer nor supposed benefactor. </p>
<p>This is the basic tenet of individualism, as opposed to collectivism. Individualism holds that man is an independent entity with an inalienable right to the pursuit of his own happiness in a society where men deal with one another as equals. </p>
<p>The American system is founded on individualism. If it is to survive, we must understand the principles of individualism and hold them as our standard in any public question, in every issue we face. We must have a positive credo, a clear consistent faith.</p>
<p>We must learn to reject as total evil the conception that the common good is served by the abolition of individual rights. General happiness cannot be created out of general suffering and self-immolation. The only happy society is one of happy individuals. One cannot have a healthy forest made up of rotten trees. </p>
<p>The power of society must always be limited by the basic, inalienable rights of the individual. </p>
<p>The right of liberty means man&#8217;s right to individual action, individual choice, individual initiative and individual property. Without the right to private property no independent action is possible. </p>
<p>The right to the pursuit of happiness means man&#8217;s right to live for himself, to choose what constitutes his own, private, personal happiness and to work for its achievement. Each individual is the sole and final judge in this choice. A man&#8217;s happiness cannot be prescribed to him by another man or by any number of other men. </p>
<p>These rights are the unconditional, personal, private, individual possession of every man, granted to him by the fact of his birth and requiring no other sanction. Such was the conception of the founders of our country, who placed individual rights above any and all collective claims. Society can only be a traffic policeman in the intercourse of men with one another. </p>
<p>From the beginning of history, two antagonists have stood face to face, two opposite types of men: the Active and the Passive. The Active Man is the producer, the creator, the originator, the individualist. His basic need is independence — in order to think and work. He neither needs nor seeks power over other men — nor can he be made to work under any form of compulsion. Every type of good work — from laying bricks to writing a symphony — is done by the Active Man. Degrees of human ability vary, but the basic principle remains the same: the degree of a man&#8217;s independence and initiative determines his talent as a worker and his worth as a man. </p>
<p>The Passive Man is found on every level of society, in mansions and in slums, and his identification mark is his dread of independence. He is a parasite who expects to be taken care of by others, who wishes to be given directives, to obey, to submit, to be regulated, to be told. He welcomes collectivism, which eliminates any chance that he might have to think or act on his own initiative. </p>
<p>When a society is based on the needs of the Passive Man it destroys the Active; but when the Active is destroyed, the Passive can no longer be cared for. When a society is based on the needs of the Active Man, he carries the Passive ones along on his energy and raises them as he rises, as the whole society rises. This has been the pattern of all human progress. </p>
<p>Some humanitarians demand a collective state because of their pity for the incompetent or Passive Man. For his sake they wish to harness the Active. But the Active Man cannot function in harness. And once he is destroyed, the destruction of the Passive Man follows automatically. So if pity is the humanitarians&#8217; first consideration, then in the name of pity, if nothing else, they should leave the Active Man free to function, in order to help the Passive. There is no other way to help him in the long run. </p>
<p>The history of mankind is the history of the struggle between the Active Man and the Passive, between the individual and the collective. The countries which have produced the happiest men, the highest standards of living and the greatest cultural advances have been the countries where the power of the collective — of the government, of the state — was limited and the individual was given freedom of independent action. As examples: The rise of Rome, with its conception of law based on a citizen&#8217;s rights, over the collectivist barbarism of its time. The rise of England, with a system of government based on the Magna Carta, over collectivist, totalitarian Spain. The rise of the United States to a degree of achievement unequaled in history — by grace of the individual freedom and independence which our Constitution gave each citizen against the collective. </p>
<p>While men are still pondering upon the causes of the rise and fall of civilizations, every page of history cries to us that there is but one source of progress: Individual Man in independent action. Collectivism is the ancient principle of savagery. A savage&#8217;s whole existence is ruled by the leaders of his tribe. Civilization is the process of setting man free from men. </p>
<p>We are now facing a choice: to go forward or to go back. </p>
<p>Collectivism is not the &#8220;New Order of Tomorrow.́́ It is the order of a very dark yesterday. But there is a New Order of Tomorrow. It belongs to Individual Man — the only creator of any tomorrows humanity has ever been granted. (Readers Digest, January 1944, pp. 88-90)</p>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://adventmessenger.org/transforming-public-policies-that-govern-society-laudato-si-part-2-is-coming-october-4-2023/comment-page-1/#comment-46428&quot;&gt;Steven Waterson&lt;/a&gt;.

At one time, Protestants and atheists or Secular Humanist&#039;s, had more in common than today. In that they had both rejected the papacies usurped authority. These two daughters of Rome went out from her, in protest of the finality of her abusive nature. Protestants because of the revelations of Holy Scripture as a purer, and greater standard and authority. Secular humanists because of the total abusive nature of the finality of her leadership, control, and example, in the convulsions of the French Revolution. These two offspring or daughters of Babylon are ever increasingly turning back to the guidance and authority of their mother though. As they turn away from freedoms and liberties they once cherished in coming out from under her heavy hand. Which always tends toward destroying liberty of conscience, and true freedom of thought and practice. Having successfully trashed and removed authentic history regarding her extremely abusive nature from public view, her revisionist histories now attack the evils of more recent nations and governments, assuming a false role of leading the path to a new and better world. But her new world is really just the same old world she ruled so abusively once before, under a new guise. 

The ignorant masses therefore, increasingly respect and submit to her seductive and intoxicating wine. Her false gospel or more accurately gospel&#039;s, concerning the saving of this world, by her self proclaimed superior moral and political plans and guidance. She will save this world from &quot;Climate change&quot; and its people from disease and disaster. This through her affiliation and guidance of ever increasing numbers of globalist, unelected, self exalting and promoting institutions. Bypassing the will of peoples and nations through the mandates they seek to impose upon all with her hearty approval and approbation. These are the new kings of the earth, that will give their power unto the final beast which she rides. Who lord themselves over all the kings, religious, secularists, scientists, merchants, traders, craftsman, entertainers, and what have you of this world. Ten of which will become prophetically identifiable before our Lord returns. 

Ayn Rands warnings and protests against papal Rome&#039;s abusive rule, were  but echo&#039;s of the protests of many a Christian and Protestant before her. Nevertheless, they are true, and the result of experiential knowledge I do believe. Reader&#039;s Digest published an article from her in 1944, concerning the term &quot;the common good&quot; used by so many oppressive peoples and governments of the past. Which of course addresses the papacies seeming continual use of term to date. Very good article addressing wrong think. I will submit it in another reply, to be considered for posting here. It might be too long, but I&#039;ll give it a try.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://adventmessenger.org/transforming-public-policies-that-govern-society-laudato-si-part-2-is-coming-october-4-2023/comment-page-1/#comment-46428">Steven Waterson</a>.</p>
<p>At one time, Protestants and atheists or Secular Humanist&#8217;s, had more in common than today. In that they had both rejected the papacies usurped authority. These two daughters of Rome went out from her, in protest of the finality of her abusive nature. Protestants because of the revelations of Holy Scripture as a purer, and greater standard and authority. Secular humanists because of the total abusive nature of the finality of her leadership, control, and example, in the convulsions of the French Revolution. These two offspring or daughters of Babylon are ever increasingly turning back to the guidance and authority of their mother though. As they turn away from freedoms and liberties they once cherished in coming out from under her heavy hand. Which always tends toward destroying liberty of conscience, and true freedom of thought and practice. Having successfully trashed and removed authentic history regarding her extremely abusive nature from public view, her revisionist histories now attack the evils of more recent nations and governments, assuming a false role of leading the path to a new and better world. But her new world is really just the same old world she ruled so abusively once before, under a new guise. </p>
<p>The ignorant masses therefore, increasingly respect and submit to her seductive and intoxicating wine. Her false gospel or more accurately gospel&#8217;s, concerning the saving of this world, by her self proclaimed superior moral and political plans and guidance. She will save this world from &#8220;Climate change&#8221; and its people from disease and disaster. This through her affiliation and guidance of ever increasing numbers of globalist, unelected, self exalting and promoting institutions. Bypassing the will of peoples and nations through the mandates they seek to impose upon all with her hearty approval and approbation. These are the new kings of the earth, that will give their power unto the final beast which she rides. Who lord themselves over all the kings, religious, secularists, scientists, merchants, traders, craftsman, entertainers, and what have you of this world. Ten of which will become prophetically identifiable before our Lord returns. </p>
<p>Ayn Rands warnings and protests against papal Rome&#8217;s abusive rule, were  but echo&#8217;s of the protests of many a Christian and Protestant before her. Nevertheless, they are true, and the result of experiential knowledge I do believe. Reader&#8217;s Digest published an article from her in 1944, concerning the term &#8220;the common good&#8221; used by so many oppressive peoples and governments of the past. Which of course addresses the papacies seeming continual use of term to date. Very good article addressing wrong think. I will submit it in another reply, to be considered for posting here. It might be too long, but I&#8217;ll give it a try.</p>
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					<description><![CDATA[Ayn Rand 1967
Russian-American writer and philosopher was right on target when she described the global ambitions of the papacy in 1967: 

‘The Catholic Church has never given up the hope to re-establish the medieval union of church and state, with a global state and a global theocracy as its ultimate goal.’ The Roman Church-State is a hybrid—a monster of ecclesiastical and political power. Its political thought is totalitarian, and whenever it has had the opportunity to apply its principles, the result has been bloody repression. If, during the last 30 years, it has softened its assertions of full, supreme, and irresponsible power, and has murdered fewer people than before, such changes in behavior are not due to a change in its ideas, but to a change in its circumstances [the secular governments keep her at arms’ length] . . . The Roman Church-State in the twentieth century, however, is an institution recovering from a mortal wound. If and when it regains [so it must have lost it] its full power and authority, it will impose a regime more sinister than any the planet has yet seen [the deadly wound will be healed].” John W. Robbins, Ecclesiastical Megalomania, p. 195.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ayn Rand 1967<br />
Russian-American writer and philosopher was right on target when she described the global ambitions of the papacy in 1967: </p>
<p>‘The Catholic Church has never given up the hope to re-establish the medieval union of church and state, with a global state and a global theocracy as its ultimate goal.’ The Roman Church-State is a hybrid—a monster of ecclesiastical and political power. Its political thought is totalitarian, and whenever it has had the opportunity to apply its principles, the result has been bloody repression. If, during the last 30 years, it has softened its assertions of full, supreme, and irresponsible power, and has murdered fewer people than before, such changes in behavior are not due to a change in its ideas, but to a change in its circumstances [the secular governments keep her at arms’ length] . . . The Roman Church-State in the twentieth century, however, is an institution recovering from a mortal wound. If and when it regains [so it must have lost it] its full power and authority, it will impose a regime more sinister than any the planet has yet seen [the deadly wound will be healed].” John W. Robbins, Ecclesiastical Megalomania, p. 195.</p>
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					<description><![CDATA[Really amazing, not sure Adventists generally are awake to how close we are now,  what a huge thing it is when the pope is boldly calling for the enforcement of Sunday observance in his encyclical Laudato Si&#039; -- I&#039;ve now been able to mention to acquaintances, here it is, the tangible evidence!  This is what I&#039;ve long been referring to -- the Pontiff of Rome is now relentlessly pushing for it.  Surely it won&#039;t be long before Protestants and governments on the North American Continent begin taking up the refrain more openly and aggressively.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Really amazing, not sure Adventists generally are awake to how close we are now,  what a huge thing it is when the pope is boldly calling for the enforcement of Sunday observance in his encyclical Laudato Si&#8217; &#8212; I&#8217;ve now been able to mention to acquaintances, here it is, the tangible evidence!  This is what I&#8217;ve long been referring to &#8212; the Pontiff of Rome is now relentlessly pushing for it.  Surely it won&#8217;t be long before Protestants and governments on the North American Continent begin taking up the refrain more openly and aggressively.</p>
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					<description><![CDATA[Climate change agenda started back  at the Rio de  janeiro In 1992 ,and paved the way for Kyoto protocal which led to the establishment of  The United Nations Framework Convention on Climate Change in 1997.It then later  came to be  known as conference of parties (cop). By the year 2015 , the world leaders adopted what is now known Paris climate change agreement after Pope Francis launched the Laudato Si encyclical which outlined his agenda for the whole world. The real agenda  behind the climate change is Sunday rest by law according to the article#237 of the Laudato si]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Climate change agenda started back  at the Rio de  janeiro In 1992 ,and paved the way for Kyoto protocal which led to the establishment of  The United Nations Framework Convention on Climate Change in 1997.It then later  came to be  known as conference of parties (cop). By the year 2015 , the world leaders adopted what is now known Paris climate change agreement after Pope Francis launched the Laudato Si encyclical which outlined his agenda for the whole world. The real agenda  behind the climate change is Sunday rest by law according to the article#237 of the Laudato si</p>
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					<description><![CDATA[More instructions for elitist, unelected, self imposing, individuals and organizations to attempt to force upon the masses they claim lordship over. Not to mention instructions for papal minions the world over as well, elected to positions within supposedly representative government, to bypass the will of their people in favor of the commands of their Pope. Traitorous  are they all. The papacy represents nothing short of the reestablishment of pagan and political policies of the old world, upon and over the unwilling and or ignorant masses of humanity, by her willing minions and fellow elitist minded authoritarians. Who together usurp and abuse power over others unto their own ends and glorification. 

   &quot;When Christianity conquered Rome the ecclesiastical structure of the pagan church, the title and vestments of the pontifex maximus, the worship of the Great Mother and a multitude of comforting divinities, the sense of supersensible presences everywhere, the joy or solemnity of old festivals, and the pageantry of immemorial ceremony, passed like maternal blood into the new religion, and captive Rome captured her conqueror.  The reins and skill of government were handed down by a dying empire to a virile papacy; the lost power of the broken sword was rewon by the magic of the consoling word; the armies of the state were replaced by the missionaries of the Church moving in all directions along the Roman roads; and the revolted provinces, accepting Christianity, again acknowledged the sovereignty of Rome.&quot;  (CAESAR AND CHRIST, A history of Roman Civilization and of Christianity from their beginnings to A.D.325. By Will Durant-1944)

&quot;In America, particularly, is this investigation important. In all the countries over which it has triumphed, Popery, like the anaconda, has wound around its folds of art, of cunning, of superstition and of power, until, enclosing everything in its too friendly embraces, it has, with one tremendous effort, crushed the nation to death. It sends forth its missionaries; it gathers its schools and colleges; it erects its cathedrals and builds its churches; it is patriotic, benevolent, charitable. Its alms and offerings attract the vulgar, its austerities and penances convince the skeptical. It is at first tolerated; then approved; next obeyed! But now come the dread realities of the system, taxation, passive submission,
excommunications, interdicts, crusades, the inquisition, destruction. Yes, Popery has well nigh destroyed every country in which it has been predominant. The liberties and national prosperity of a people cannot coexist with such a system............

Thus does the anomalous character of the Papacy prove it to be the antitype of “the little horn.” This power is unlike all others; is uncongenial with all others. It is a usurper, a supplanter. We can readily conceive, how a spiritual power, either associated with the state, or entirely independent of the state, may exist without discord or collision. If the church be entirely distinct from the political institutions of a people, there can of course be no disturbance, as there is no contact. And if a church be established by law, as the operations of the religious and the political systems are kept in distinct spheres, there may be but occasional evils growing out of such union. But for a government that claims its
existence jure divino, that sets up a universal empire, that arrogates to itself supremacy in all civil, as well as ecclesiastical matters — for a government that considers itself infallible, and which requires absolute submission in all its subjects — for such a government to exist in the midst of other governments; in its very principles trampling upon their rights and privileges; wielding both a temporal and a spiritual sword; punishing offenders both in this world and the next — for such a government to exist in harmony with other governments, is impossible, absolutely impossible. The papal system can harmonize with no other, whether religious or political. To the religious world, it exhibits one supreme pontiff of Christendom, and requires for him universal obedience. To the political world, it presents one great monarch, whose throne is above every throne, and whose will is law throughout the globe. No the Papacy is a unit, and presents the front of positive hostility to every thing that is not consolidated in itself. It may not be able to carry out its principles and
wishes, but this is its nature. It is “diverse from all other governments; it is the adversary of all other governments.&quot;
(CHRIST AND ANTICHRIST, by Samuel J. Cassels, PART 2 ANTICHRIST OR THE PAPACY PROVED TO BE THE ANTICHRIST PREDICTED IN THE HOLY SCRIPTURES, INTRODUCTORY REMARKS, Pgs. 125&#038;126, Chapter 3, Pgs. 155&#038;156)

Rev 17:12  And the ten horns which thou sawest are ten kings, which have received no kingdom as yet; but receive power as kings one hour with the beast. 13  These have one mind, and shall give their power and strength unto the beast. 
14  These shall make war with the Lamb, and the Lamb shall overcome them: for he is Lord of lords, and King of kings: and they that are with him are called, and chosen, and faithful. 15  And he saith unto me, The waters which thou sawest, where the whore sitteth, are peoples, and multitudes, and nations, and tongues. 16  And the ten horns which thou sawest upon the beast, these shall hate the whore, and shall make her desolate and naked, and shall eat her flesh, and burn her with fire. 17  For God hath put in their hearts to fulfil his will, and to agree, and give their kingdom unto the beast, until the words of God shall be fulfilled. 18  And the woman which thou sawest is that great city, which reigneth over the kings of the earth.(KJV)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>More instructions for elitist, unelected, self imposing, individuals and organizations to attempt to force upon the masses they claim lordship over. Not to mention instructions for papal minions the world over as well, elected to positions within supposedly representative government, to bypass the will of their people in favor of the commands of their Pope. Traitorous  are they all. The papacy represents nothing short of the reestablishment of pagan and political policies of the old world, upon and over the unwilling and or ignorant masses of humanity, by her willing minions and fellow elitist minded authoritarians. Who together usurp and abuse power over others unto their own ends and glorification. </p>
<p>   &#8220;When Christianity conquered Rome the ecclesiastical structure of the pagan church, the title and vestments of the pontifex maximus, the worship of the Great Mother and a multitude of comforting divinities, the sense of supersensible presences everywhere, the joy or solemnity of old festivals, and the pageantry of immemorial ceremony, passed like maternal blood into the new religion, and captive Rome captured her conqueror.  The reins and skill of government were handed down by a dying empire to a virile papacy; the lost power of the broken sword was rewon by the magic of the consoling word; the armies of the state were replaced by the missionaries of the Church moving in all directions along the Roman roads; and the revolted provinces, accepting Christianity, again acknowledged the sovereignty of Rome.&#8221;  (CAESAR AND CHRIST, A history of Roman Civilization and of Christianity from their beginnings to A.D.325. By Will Durant-1944)</p>
<p>&#8220;In America, particularly, is this investigation important. In all the countries over which it has triumphed, Popery, like the anaconda, has wound around its folds of art, of cunning, of superstition and of power, until, enclosing everything in its too friendly embraces, it has, with one tremendous effort, crushed the nation to death. It sends forth its missionaries; it gathers its schools and colleges; it erects its cathedrals and builds its churches; it is patriotic, benevolent, charitable. Its alms and offerings attract the vulgar, its austerities and penances convince the skeptical. It is at first tolerated; then approved; next obeyed! But now come the dread realities of the system, taxation, passive submission,<br />
excommunications, interdicts, crusades, the inquisition, destruction. Yes, Popery has well nigh destroyed every country in which it has been predominant. The liberties and national prosperity of a people cannot coexist with such a system&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;</p>
<p>Thus does the anomalous character of the Papacy prove it to be the antitype of “the little horn.” This power is unlike all others; is uncongenial with all others. It is a usurper, a supplanter. We can readily conceive, how a spiritual power, either associated with the state, or entirely independent of the state, may exist without discord or collision. If the church be entirely distinct from the political institutions of a people, there can of course be no disturbance, as there is no contact. And if a church be established by law, as the operations of the religious and the political systems are kept in distinct spheres, there may be but occasional evils growing out of such union. But for a government that claims its<br />
existence jure divino, that sets up a universal empire, that arrogates to itself supremacy in all civil, as well as ecclesiastical matters — for a government that considers itself infallible, and which requires absolute submission in all its subjects — for such a government to exist in the midst of other governments; in its very principles trampling upon their rights and privileges; wielding both a temporal and a spiritual sword; punishing offenders both in this world and the next — for such a government to exist in harmony with other governments, is impossible, absolutely impossible. The papal system can harmonize with no other, whether religious or political. To the religious world, it exhibits one supreme pontiff of Christendom, and requires for him universal obedience. To the political world, it presents one great monarch, whose throne is above every throne, and whose will is law throughout the globe. No the Papacy is a unit, and presents the front of positive hostility to every thing that is not consolidated in itself. It may not be able to carry out its principles and<br />
wishes, but this is its nature. It is “diverse from all other governments; it is the adversary of all other governments.&#8221;<br />
(CHRIST AND ANTICHRIST, by Samuel J. Cassels, PART 2 ANTICHRIST OR THE PAPACY PROVED TO BE THE ANTICHRIST PREDICTED IN THE HOLY SCRIPTURES, INTRODUCTORY REMARKS, Pgs. 125&amp;126, Chapter 3, Pgs. 155&amp;156)</p>
<p>Rev 17:12  And the ten horns which thou sawest are ten kings, which have received no kingdom as yet; but receive power as kings one hour with the beast. 13  These have one mind, and shall give their power and strength unto the beast.<br />
14  These shall make war with the Lamb, and the Lamb shall overcome them: for he is Lord of lords, and King of kings: and they that are with him are called, and chosen, and faithful. 15  And he saith unto me, The waters which thou sawest, where the whore sitteth, are peoples, and multitudes, and nations, and tongues. 16  And the ten horns which thou sawest upon the beast, these shall hate the whore, and shall make her desolate and naked, and shall eat her flesh, and burn her with fire. 17  For God hath put in their hearts to fulfil his will, and to agree, and give their kingdom unto the beast, until the words of God shall be fulfilled. 18  And the woman which thou sawest is that great city, which reigneth over the kings of the earth.(KJV)</p>
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		By: Max		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[The papacy is relentless. It&#039;s obvious that they won&#039;t stop until they fulfil their prophetic destiny. ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The papacy is relentless. It&#8217;s obvious that they won&#8217;t stop until they fulfil their prophetic destiny. </p>
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		By: Robert King		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[Climate rest Sunday law coming to the US before the Presidential elections in November 2024. The Demoncrats need the Senate to pass any climate treaty that will seriously impact the US economy. The odds of satans minions the demoncrats holding the Senate is very slim.  I write this know ing the treasonous Dems have found many ways to steal elections that are close. Land slides are problem for them which is coming in many states that if you have a D behind your name will lose.

 But again it is a new age for the Globalists and will pull out all stops as they did ion 2020 with buring down several US cities downtowns in 2020.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Climate rest Sunday law coming to the US before the Presidential elections in November 2024. The Demoncrats need the Senate to pass any climate treaty that will seriously impact the US economy. The odds of satans minions the demoncrats holding the Senate is very slim.  I write this know ing the treasonous Dems have found many ways to steal elections that are close. Land slides are problem for them which is coming in many states that if you have a D behind your name will lose.</p>
<p> But again it is a new age for the Globalists and will pull out all stops as they did ion 2020 with buring down several US cities downtowns in 2020.</p>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;As the approach of the Roman armies was a sign to the disciples of the impending destruction of Jerusalem, so may this apostasy be a sign to us that the limit of God&#039;s forbearance is reached, 
that the measure of our nation&#039;s iniquity is full, and that the angel of mercy is about to take her flight, never to return.&quot; 5T 451]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;As the approach of the Roman armies was a sign to the disciples of the impending destruction of Jerusalem, so may this apostasy be a sign to us that the limit of God&#8217;s forbearance is reached,<br />
that the measure of our nation&#8217;s iniquity is full, and that the angel of mercy is about to take her flight, never to return.&#8221; 5T 451</p>
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