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		By: Dj		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dj]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Apr 2022 02:39:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[What about the many decent school teachers in the sda systems, that were stood down without any reason, only because their hearts were for the students, who were struggling to keep up their studies during lock down .
Many teachers got caught out  cos of students on Facebook panacing and in fear of failing their examines,due to missing out on class work and teacher to student learning. 

Many teachers got sacked  ,many teachers got reported to state education authorities, to cause their teaching degrees be made useless. 

Is that what the sda school systems are all about. 
Where&#039;s the brother hood of support gone to.
Where&#039;s the christian faith and the help for church members gone to. 
Why is there so much personalty conflict going on within our church and school systems. 

In the old days members stuck with members though thick and thin times. 
The old leaders served us well, they were men of faith. 
We were brought up on well gounded sermons and were told all about the last day events and the conditions of God church would be in.

If sister white was alive today, she&#039;d be totally shocked, seeing her church that God helped her to get established  going the way of roam. 

Well who else would like to add to my comments,,go a head, cos we need to wake up those who didn&#039;t carry enough oil to keep their lamps burning so to speak, as is spoken about in the bible.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What about the many decent school teachers in the sda systems, that were stood down without any reason, only because their hearts were for the students, who were struggling to keep up their studies during lock down .<br />
Many teachers got caught out  cos of students on Facebook panacing and in fear of failing their examines,due to missing out on class work and teacher to student learning. </p>
<p>Many teachers got sacked  ,many teachers got reported to state education authorities, to cause their teaching degrees be made useless. </p>
<p>Is that what the sda school systems are all about.<br />
Where&#8217;s the brother hood of support gone to.<br />
Where&#8217;s the christian faith and the help for church members gone to.<br />
Why is there so much personalty conflict going on within our church and school systems. </p>
<p>In the old days members stuck with members though thick and thin times.<br />
The old leaders served us well, they were men of faith.<br />
We were brought up on well gounded sermons and were told all about the last day events and the conditions of God church would be in.</p>
<p>If sister white was alive today, she&#8217;d be totally shocked, seeing her church that God helped her to get established  going the way of roam. </p>
<p>Well who else would like to add to my comments,,go a head, cos we need to wake up those who didn&#8217;t carry enough oil to keep their lamps burning so to speak, as is spoken about in the bible.</p>
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		By: Darrell Kleckley		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Darrell Kleckley]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Feb 2022 13:49:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://adventmessenger.org/when-church-leaders-lack-the-courage-to-admit-they-were-completely-wrong/comment-page-1/#comment-11141&quot;&gt;Nyala&lt;/a&gt;.

Hello Andy. Hope to see you and &quot;mom&quot; at ASI again this year. 

I tried to post this on the Adventist News website but alas, it&#039;s not &quot;approved&quot;. 

Didn&#039;t Ganoune Diop recently say we need to follow Caesar, er... World Health Organization in a presentation to the world? You can watch the Zoom meeting from https://ted.adventist.org/covid-symposium-trans-european-division/ January 19th. Starting around 8:25 into the Zoom through 34:54 Diop says this is a public health issue and we must follow the rule of Caesar&#039;s law because the WHO said so. So we need to follow Caesar. Wait... wut? I thought we are to follow GOD not caesar!

Don&#039;t take my word on this... listen for yourself, unless of course the video is rescinded soon!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://adventmessenger.org/when-church-leaders-lack-the-courage-to-admit-they-were-completely-wrong/comment-page-1/#comment-11141">Nyala</a>.</p>
<p>Hello Andy. Hope to see you and &#8220;mom&#8221; at ASI again this year. </p>
<p>I tried to post this on the Adventist News website but alas, it&#8217;s not &#8220;approved&#8221;. </p>
<p>Didn&#8217;t Ganoune Diop recently say we need to follow Caesar, er&#8230; World Health Organization in a presentation to the world? You can watch the Zoom meeting from <a href="https://ted.adventist.org/covid-symposium-trans-european-division/" rel="nofollow ugc">https://ted.adventist.org/covid-symposium-trans-european-division/</a> January 19th. Starting around 8:25 into the Zoom through 34:54 Diop says this is a public health issue and we must follow the rule of Caesar&#8217;s law because the WHO said so. So we need to follow Caesar. Wait&#8230; wut? I thought we are to follow GOD not caesar!</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t take my word on this&#8230; listen for yourself, unless of course the video is rescinded soon!</p>
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		By: John Carter		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John Carter]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Jan 2022 00:56:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://adventmessenger.org/when-church-leaders-lack-the-courage-to-admit-they-were-completely-wrong/comment-page-1/#comment-11143&quot;&gt;Rose&lt;/a&gt;.

Recipient always submits to the giver... note governments are not charities, they will always expect servitude in return]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://adventmessenger.org/when-church-leaders-lack-the-courage-to-admit-they-were-completely-wrong/comment-page-1/#comment-11143">Rose</a>.</p>
<p>Recipient always submits to the giver&#8230; note governments are not charities, they will always expect servitude in return</p>
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		By: Yes Ms Jane		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Yes Ms Jane]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Jan 2022 02:57:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Saw a Kluass Schwabb video where he&#039;s boasting about all the people who are onboard with his great reset (garbage), amongst those many professions (mostly government jobs) he mentioned Religious leaders...

Could be why The GC hasn&#039;t been apologetic for the part they have played in the destruction of freedom in the Western countries.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Saw a Kluass Schwabb video where he&#8217;s boasting about all the people who are onboard with his great reset (garbage), amongst those many professions (mostly government jobs) he mentioned Religious leaders&#8230;</p>
<p>Could be why The GC hasn&#8217;t been apologetic for the part they have played in the destruction of freedom in the Western countries.</p>
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		By: Memory Rangarira		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Memory Rangarira]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Jan 2022 13:22:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://adventmessenger.org/when-church-leaders-lack-the-courage-to-admit-they-were-completely-wrong/comment-page-1/#comment-11143&quot;&gt;Rose&lt;/a&gt;.

Praise the Lord truth will always  triumph let&#039;s hold fast on Jesus our only source of defence]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://adventmessenger.org/when-church-leaders-lack-the-courage-to-admit-they-were-completely-wrong/comment-page-1/#comment-11143">Rose</a>.</p>
<p>Praise the Lord truth will always  triumph let&#8217;s hold fast on Jesus our only source of defence</p>
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		By: Yes Ms Jane		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Yes Ms Jane]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Jan 2022 08:44:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://adventmessenger.org/when-church-leaders-lack-the-courage-to-admit-they-were-completely-wrong/comment-page-1/#comment-11165&quot;&gt;Johnny&lt;/a&gt;.

EGW talks about Mind controlling mind is the Religion of Satan,

That Satan controls the Hypnotized and the Hypnotist,

God never Forces people to compliance, 

During various ages, People inspired by God willingly died for the Freedom&#039;s we previously enjoyed in the west....]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://adventmessenger.org/when-church-leaders-lack-the-courage-to-admit-they-were-completely-wrong/comment-page-1/#comment-11165">Johnny</a>.</p>
<p>EGW talks about Mind controlling mind is the Religion of Satan,</p>
<p>That Satan controls the Hypnotized and the Hypnotist,</p>
<p>God never Forces people to compliance, </p>
<p>During various ages, People inspired by God willingly died for the Freedom&#8217;s we previously enjoyed in the west&#8230;.</p>
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		By: Ed		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ed]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Jan 2022 08:01:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The church leadership was infiltrated by Jesuits long ago. Keep your eyes off the church, be loyal to his Commandments, and have the faith of Jesus!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The church leadership was infiltrated by Jesuits long ago. Keep your eyes off the church, be loyal to his Commandments, and have the faith of Jesus!</p>
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		By: J3		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[J3]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Jan 2022 05:57:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The word is integrity. Courage, is what it would have taken to resist the tyranny when first confronted with it. Preach on brothers/sisters.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The word is integrity. Courage, is what it would have taken to resist the tyranny when first confronted with it. Preach on brothers/sisters.</p>
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		By: Jon		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jon]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Jan 2022 04:49:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The enemy is buying souls today very cheap. &quot;Ye have sold yourselves for nought,&quot; is the language of Scripture. One is selling his soul for the world&#039;s applause, another for money; one to gratify base passions, another for worldly amusement. Such bargains are made daily. Satan is bidding for the purchase of Christ&#039;s blood and buying them cheap, notwithstanding the infinite price which has been paid to ransom them.  {5T 133.4} 
     Great blessings and privileges are ours. We may secure the most valuable heavenly treasures. Let ministers and people remember that gospel truth ruins if it does not save. The soul that refuses to listen to the invitations of mercy from day to day can soon listen to the most urgent appeals without an emotion stirring his soul.  {5T 134.1} 
     As laborers with God we need more fervent piety and less self-exaltation. The more self is exalted, the more will faith in the testimonies of the Spirit of God be lessened. Those who are the most closely connected with God are the ones who know His voice when He speaks to them. Those who are spiritual discern spiritual things. Such will feel grateful that the Lord has pointed out their errors, while those who trust wholly in themselves will see less and less of God in the testimonies of His Spirit. 5T134.2 
...for them that honor me i will honor and them that despise me shall be lightly esteemed. 1 sam 2;30]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The enemy is buying souls today very cheap. &#8220;Ye have sold yourselves for nought,&#8221; is the language of Scripture. One is selling his soul for the world&#8217;s applause, another for money; one to gratify base passions, another for worldly amusement. Such bargains are made daily. Satan is bidding for the purchase of Christ&#8217;s blood and buying them cheap, notwithstanding the infinite price which has been paid to ransom them.  {5T 133.4}<br />
     Great blessings and privileges are ours. We may secure the most valuable heavenly treasures. Let ministers and people remember that gospel truth ruins if it does not save. The soul that refuses to listen to the invitations of mercy from day to day can soon listen to the most urgent appeals without an emotion stirring his soul.  {5T 134.1}<br />
     As laborers with God we need more fervent piety and less self-exaltation. The more self is exalted, the more will faith in the testimonies of the Spirit of God be lessened. Those who are the most closely connected with God are the ones who know His voice when He speaks to them. Those who are spiritual discern spiritual things. Such will feel grateful that the Lord has pointed out their errors, while those who trust wholly in themselves will see less and less of God in the testimonies of His Spirit. 5T134.2<br />
&#8230;for them that honor me i will honor and them that despise me shall be lightly esteemed. 1 sam 2;30</p>
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