<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss version="2.0"
	xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/"
	xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/"
	xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom"
	xmlns:sy="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/syndication/"
	
	>
<channel>
	<title>
	Comments on: While Adventist Leaders Refuse to Offer Covid-19 Exemption Letters to their Members, Roman Catholic Bishops are Giving them to their Flock	</title>
	<atom:link href="https://adventmessenger.org/while-adventist-leaders-refuse-to-offer-covid-19-exemption-letters-to-their-members-roman-catholic-bishops-are-giving-them-to-their-flock/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" />
	<link>https://adventmessenger.org/while-adventist-leaders-refuse-to-offer-covid-19-exemption-letters-to-their-members-roman-catholic-bishops-are-giving-them-to-their-flock/</link>
	<description>News and commentary from a Biblical world view on current events, top stories, social trends and political and religious events.</description>
	<lastBuildDate>Wed, 21 Sep 2022 04:11:22 +0000</lastBuildDate>
	<sy:updatePeriod>
	hourly	</sy:updatePeriod>
	<sy:updateFrequency>
	1	</sy:updateFrequency>
	<generator>https://wordpress.org/?v=6.9.4</generator>
	<item>
		<title>
		By: Shayne Porath		</title>
		<link>https://adventmessenger.org/while-adventist-leaders-refuse-to-offer-covid-19-exemption-letters-to-their-members-roman-catholic-bishops-are-giving-them-to-their-flock/comment-page-1/#comment-28683</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Shayne Porath]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Sep 2022 04:11:22 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">https://adventmessenger.org/?p=12444#comment-28683</guid>

					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://adventmessenger.org/while-adventist-leaders-refuse-to-offer-covid-19-exemption-letters-to-their-members-roman-catholic-bishops-are-giving-them-to-their-flock/comment-page-1/#comment-4239&quot;&gt;Antonnette&lt;/a&gt;.

The VACCINE  IS the mark of the beast!!!  MANY SDA are awaiting the SUNDAY law!    Many protestants await the RFID !    FOOLISHNESS indeed !!!!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://adventmessenger.org/while-adventist-leaders-refuse-to-offer-covid-19-exemption-letters-to-their-members-roman-catholic-bishops-are-giving-them-to-their-flock/comment-page-1/#comment-4239">Antonnette</a>.</p>
<p>The VACCINE  IS the mark of the beast!!!  MANY SDA are awaiting the SUNDAY law!    Many protestants await the RFID !    FOOLISHNESS indeed !!!!</p>
]]></content:encoded>
		
			</item>
		<item>
		<title>
		By: Dave		</title>
		<link>https://adventmessenger.org/while-adventist-leaders-refuse-to-offer-covid-19-exemption-letters-to-their-members-roman-catholic-bishops-are-giving-them-to-their-flock/comment-page-1/#comment-6341</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dave]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Nov 2021 19:46:16 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">https://adventmessenger.org/?p=12444#comment-6341</guid>

					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://adventmessenger.org/while-adventist-leaders-refuse-to-offer-covid-19-exemption-letters-to-their-members-roman-catholic-bishops-are-giving-them-to-their-flock/comment-page-1/#comment-2934&quot;&gt;S. Slev.&lt;/a&gt;.

Yes!  Absolutely true!  We are seeing this first hand.  Never thought I would see the day when SDA church leaders would abandon its people.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://adventmessenger.org/while-adventist-leaders-refuse-to-offer-covid-19-exemption-letters-to-their-members-roman-catholic-bishops-are-giving-them-to-their-flock/comment-page-1/#comment-2934">S. Slev.</a>.</p>
<p>Yes!  Absolutely true!  We are seeing this first hand.  Never thought I would see the day when SDA church leaders would abandon its people.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
		
			</item>
		<item>
		<title>
		By: Dave		</title>
		<link>https://adventmessenger.org/while-adventist-leaders-refuse-to-offer-covid-19-exemption-letters-to-their-members-roman-catholic-bishops-are-giving-them-to-their-flock/comment-page-1/#comment-6340</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dave]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Nov 2021 19:40:42 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">https://adventmessenger.org/?p=12444#comment-6340</guid>

					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://adventmessenger.org/while-adventist-leaders-refuse-to-offer-covid-19-exemption-letters-to-their-members-roman-catholic-bishops-are-giving-them-to-their-flock/comment-page-1/#comment-2786&quot;&gt;LINDA F TAYLOR&lt;/a&gt;.

As U.S.  citizens with inalienable rights, that means, partly, we have the right to choose what medical care we receive,  if any.  The U.S. government does not have the right to impose ANY treatment on anyone.   Not the least of which, a treatment that has and IS killing thousands of people.  
I am appalled that the SDA church doesn&#039;t have the guts to stand up and defend its members against these illegal AND immoral shots.  I have started to rethink my support of the church.  Is the reason for the church&#039;s silence because they don&#039;t want to lose revenue?  Certainly appears that way.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://adventmessenger.org/while-adventist-leaders-refuse-to-offer-covid-19-exemption-letters-to-their-members-roman-catholic-bishops-are-giving-them-to-their-flock/comment-page-1/#comment-2786">LINDA F TAYLOR</a>.</p>
<p>As U.S.  citizens with inalienable rights, that means, partly, we have the right to choose what medical care we receive,  if any.  The U.S. government does not have the right to impose ANY treatment on anyone.   Not the least of which, a treatment that has and IS killing thousands of people.<br />
I am appalled that the SDA church doesn&#8217;t have the guts to stand up and defend its members against these illegal AND immoral shots.  I have started to rethink my support of the church.  Is the reason for the church&#8217;s silence because they don&#8217;t want to lose revenue?  Certainly appears that way.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
		
			</item>
		<item>
		<title>
		By: Luckson Jimmy Kamanga		</title>
		<link>https://adventmessenger.org/while-adventist-leaders-refuse-to-offer-covid-19-exemption-letters-to-their-members-roman-catholic-bishops-are-giving-them-to-their-flock/comment-page-1/#comment-6291</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Luckson Jimmy Kamanga]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Nov 2021 18:53:35 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">https://adventmessenger.org/?p=12444#comment-6291</guid>

					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://adventmessenger.org/while-adventist-leaders-refuse-to-offer-covid-19-exemption-letters-to-their-members-roman-catholic-bishops-are-giving-them-to-their-flock/comment-page-1/#comment-4573&quot;&gt;Keneth Edward&lt;/a&gt;.

All the laws that are currently in support of human rights will soon be dealt with, “In the last great conflict of the controversy with Satan those who are loyal to God will see every earthly support cut off. Because they refuse to break His law in obedience to earthly powers, they will be forbidden to buy or sell...” —The Desire of Ages pp 121. 3]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://adventmessenger.org/while-adventist-leaders-refuse-to-offer-covid-19-exemption-letters-to-their-members-roman-catholic-bishops-are-giving-them-to-their-flock/comment-page-1/#comment-4573">Keneth Edward</a>.</p>
<p>All the laws that are currently in support of human rights will soon be dealt with, “In the last great conflict of the controversy with Satan those who are loyal to God will see every earthly support cut off. Because they refuse to break His law in obedience to earthly powers, they will be forbidden to buy or sell&#8230;” —The Desire of Ages pp 121. 3</p>
]]></content:encoded>
		
			</item>
		<item>
		<title>
		By: Clyde B.		</title>
		<link>https://adventmessenger.org/while-adventist-leaders-refuse-to-offer-covid-19-exemption-letters-to-their-members-roman-catholic-bishops-are-giving-them-to-their-flock/comment-page-1/#comment-4574</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Clyde B.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Oct 2021 09:01:28 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">https://adventmessenger.org/?p=12444#comment-4574</guid>

					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://adventmessenger.org/while-adventist-leaders-refuse-to-offer-covid-19-exemption-letters-to-their-members-roman-catholic-bishops-are-giving-them-to-their-flock/comment-page-1/#comment-2790&quot;&gt;Thomas Eisendrath&lt;/a&gt;.

There are disturbing trends in the church.  When do we pronounce it to be Babylon and sever connections?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://adventmessenger.org/while-adventist-leaders-refuse-to-offer-covid-19-exemption-letters-to-their-members-roman-catholic-bishops-are-giving-them-to-their-flock/comment-page-1/#comment-2790">Thomas Eisendrath</a>.</p>
<p>There are disturbing trends in the church.  When do we pronounce it to be Babylon and sever connections?</p>
]]></content:encoded>
		
			</item>
		<item>
		<title>
		By: Keneth Edward		</title>
		<link>https://adventmessenger.org/while-adventist-leaders-refuse-to-offer-covid-19-exemption-letters-to-their-members-roman-catholic-bishops-are-giving-them-to-their-flock/comment-page-1/#comment-4573</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Keneth Edward]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Oct 2021 08:57:42 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">https://adventmessenger.org/?p=12444#comment-4573</guid>

					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://adventmessenger.org/while-adventist-leaders-refuse-to-offer-covid-19-exemption-letters-to-their-members-roman-catholic-bishops-are-giving-them-to-their-flock/comment-page-1/#comment-3035&quot;&gt;Darlene Jean Caliso- Catigay&lt;/a&gt;.

A very good practical comment.  We are baptized into Christ, not the church or clergy and Christ should be our focus.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://adventmessenger.org/while-adventist-leaders-refuse-to-offer-covid-19-exemption-letters-to-their-members-roman-catholic-bishops-are-giving-them-to-their-flock/comment-page-1/#comment-3035">Darlene Jean Caliso- Catigay</a>.</p>
<p>A very good practical comment.  We are baptized into Christ, not the church or clergy and Christ should be our focus.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
		
			</item>
		<item>
		<title>
		By: Antonnette		</title>
		<link>https://adventmessenger.org/while-adventist-leaders-refuse-to-offer-covid-19-exemption-letters-to-their-members-roman-catholic-bishops-are-giving-them-to-their-flock/comment-page-1/#comment-4239</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Antonnette]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Sep 2021 03:19:07 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">https://adventmessenger.org/?p=12444#comment-4239</guid>

					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://adventmessenger.org/while-adventist-leaders-refuse-to-offer-covid-19-exemption-letters-to-their-members-roman-catholic-bishops-are-giving-them-to-their-flock/comment-page-1/#comment-2901&quot;&gt;Ruth L&lt;/a&gt;.

Hallelujah. A friend posted on FB, &quot;What does the vaccine have to do with the Mark of the Beast?&quot; and my initial reaction was &quot;Nothing directly,&quot; until he explained Daniel 1 preceding Daniel 3 and Daniel 6. Too many of the members and leaders in the Remnant are playing Blind-Man&#039;s-Bluff. My semesters of Immunology/Serology and of Genetics and Molecular Biology made me wary of DNA and RNA vaccines when I heard, and further research [pathogenic priming/ ADE/ Antibody-Dependent Enhancement; Amalgamation statements by EGW, etc] made things only worse. The methods of implementation are clearly leading to the Mark -- only blind guides won&#039;t see that. I learned about garlic and turmeric and &quot;flu bombs&quot; and vitamins D&#038;C &#038; zinc and honey with lemon/ lime -- praise God for His pharmacy -- both for prevention and treatment. [Research them all, please.] .. But the Health Message is ignored... NEW START / CELEBRATIONS and natural remedies are pushed aside. Lord, have mercy!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://adventmessenger.org/while-adventist-leaders-refuse-to-offer-covid-19-exemption-letters-to-their-members-roman-catholic-bishops-are-giving-them-to-their-flock/comment-page-1/#comment-2901">Ruth L</a>.</p>
<p>Hallelujah. A friend posted on FB, &#8220;What does the vaccine have to do with the Mark of the Beast?&#8221; and my initial reaction was &#8220;Nothing directly,&#8221; until he explained Daniel 1 preceding Daniel 3 and Daniel 6. Too many of the members and leaders in the Remnant are playing Blind-Man&#8217;s-Bluff. My semesters of Immunology/Serology and of Genetics and Molecular Biology made me wary of DNA and RNA vaccines when I heard, and further research [pathogenic priming/ ADE/ Antibody-Dependent Enhancement; Amalgamation statements by EGW, etc] made things only worse. The methods of implementation are clearly leading to the Mark &#8212; only blind guides won&#8217;t see that. I learned about garlic and turmeric and &#8220;flu bombs&#8221; and vitamins D&amp;C &amp; zinc and honey with lemon/ lime &#8212; praise God for His pharmacy &#8212; both for prevention and treatment. [Research them all, please.] .. But the Health Message is ignored&#8230; NEW START / CELEBRATIONS and natural remedies are pushed aside. Lord, have mercy!</p>
]]></content:encoded>
		
			</item>
		<item>
		<title>
		By: Gregory Matthews		</title>
		<link>https://adventmessenger.org/while-adventist-leaders-refuse-to-offer-covid-19-exemption-letters-to-their-members-roman-catholic-bishops-are-giving-them-to-their-flock/comment-page-1/#comment-3768</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Gregory Matthews]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Sep 2021 11:04:17 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">https://adventmessenger.org/?p=12444#comment-3768</guid>

					<description><![CDATA[The issue of conscientious objection to the COVID vaccine has been raised by several people.  This is a valid issue that deserves consideration. The first question to be considered is that of the law.  In the United States, conscientious objections must be based upon the law.  This includes both statute law and case law.  In the U.S, there is a substantial body of case law that has developed in connection with military service.

The U.S. statute law for exemption to military service allows for religious exemption.  In the development of the associated case law, the following elements have developed:

•	 The person who claims the exemption must be sincere.
•	  The official teaching of the denomination to which that person may belong is not relevant to the claim of the individual.
•	 The claim for a religious exemption does not require a belief in a god.

The result of this is that the position of the denomination is not important.  What is important is the sincerity of the individual.  From this perspective, a letter from a denominational clergyperson is of value only if it addresses the sincerity of the person requesting an exemption.  It is valueless if it only speaks to the teaching of the denomination.

Personal note:  As a former U. S. Army chaplain I was extensively involved in processing the requests of Army personnel for either discharge or assignment as a conscientious objector.  My work in this area resulted in formal recognition by a 2-star general in the Pentagon and which at that time resulted in my involvement in the majority of such requests from people assigned to the military base where I was assigned.  All (100%) of the conscientious objections classes to which I was involved were determined in a manner consistent with my determination of the person’s sincerity. 

From this perspective and established case law, in the U.S. a request for a religious exemption of the COVID vaccine will be determined by the sincerity of the individual and not by the official teaching of the denomination.  Therefore, a letter from a clergyperson will only be helpful as it addressed the sincerity of the person.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The issue of conscientious objection to the COVID vaccine has been raised by several people.  This is a valid issue that deserves consideration. The first question to be considered is that of the law.  In the United States, conscientious objections must be based upon the law.  This includes both statute law and case law.  In the U.S, there is a substantial body of case law that has developed in connection with military service.</p>
<p>The U.S. statute law for exemption to military service allows for religious exemption.  In the development of the associated case law, the following elements have developed:</p>
<p>•	 The person who claims the exemption must be sincere.<br />
•	  The official teaching of the denomination to which that person may belong is not relevant to the claim of the individual.<br />
•	 The claim for a religious exemption does not require a belief in a god.</p>
<p>The result of this is that the position of the denomination is not important.  What is important is the sincerity of the individual.  From this perspective, a letter from a denominational clergyperson is of value only if it addresses the sincerity of the person requesting an exemption.  It is valueless if it only speaks to the teaching of the denomination.</p>
<p>Personal note:  As a former U. S. Army chaplain I was extensively involved in processing the requests of Army personnel for either discharge or assignment as a conscientious objector.  My work in this area resulted in formal recognition by a 2-star general in the Pentagon and which at that time resulted in my involvement in the majority of such requests from people assigned to the military base where I was assigned.  All (100%) of the conscientious objections classes to which I was involved were determined in a manner consistent with my determination of the person’s sincerity. </p>
<p>From this perspective and established case law, in the U.S. a request for a religious exemption of the COVID vaccine will be determined by the sincerity of the individual and not by the official teaching of the denomination.  Therefore, a letter from a clergyperson will only be helpful as it addressed the sincerity of the person.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
		
			</item>
		<item>
		<title>
		By: Alan		</title>
		<link>https://adventmessenger.org/while-adventist-leaders-refuse-to-offer-covid-19-exemption-letters-to-their-members-roman-catholic-bishops-are-giving-them-to-their-flock/comment-page-1/#comment-3597</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Alan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Sep 2021 17:02:10 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">https://adventmessenger.org/?p=12444#comment-3597</guid>

					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://adventmessenger.org/while-adventist-leaders-refuse-to-offer-covid-19-exemption-letters-to-their-members-roman-catholic-bishops-are-giving-them-to-their-flock/comment-page-1/#comment-2804&quot;&gt;Byron Greenberg, Ph.D., MPH&lt;/a&gt;.

That is why i do not take any medications. I am 66 yrs old and in very good health. I keep the 8 laws of health and avoid doctors and hospitals as i would the plaque and the so called vaccine.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://adventmessenger.org/while-adventist-leaders-refuse-to-offer-covid-19-exemption-letters-to-their-members-roman-catholic-bishops-are-giving-them-to-their-flock/comment-page-1/#comment-2804">Byron Greenberg, Ph.D., MPH</a>.</p>
<p>That is why i do not take any medications. I am 66 yrs old and in very good health. I keep the 8 laws of health and avoid doctors and hospitals as i would the plaque and the so called vaccine.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
		
			</item>
	</channel>
</rss>
