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	Comments on: Why are the Delegates from the Rebellious German Churches Speaking at this General Conference Session?	</title>
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		By: Andrea Zaccaria		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Andrea Zaccaria]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Jul 2022 06:34:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://adventmessenger.org/why-are-the-delegates-from-the-rebellious-german-churches-speaking-at-this-general-conference-session/comment-page-1/#comment-25790&quot;&gt;Andrea Zaccaria&lt;/a&gt;.

Lastly why pride themselves about the advancement of the church in China, made primarily by ordained women pastors, were they actually should never recognize them. Hypocrisy at the highest level.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://adventmessenger.org/why-are-the-delegates-from-the-rebellious-german-churches-speaking-at-this-general-conference-session/comment-page-1/#comment-25790">Andrea Zaccaria</a>.</p>
<p>Lastly why pride themselves about the advancement of the church in China, made primarily by ordained women pastors, were they actually should never recognize them. Hypocrisy at the highest level.</p>
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		By: Andrea Zaccaria		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Andrea Zaccaria]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Jul 2022 06:29:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://adventmessenger.org/why-are-the-delegates-from-the-rebellious-german-churches-speaking-at-this-general-conference-session/comment-page-1/#comment-24359&quot;&gt;Tom Magnusson&lt;/a&gt;.

Why were there ordained women pastors in the time of Ellen white? 
Why are they taking moneys from those women during 4 years doing the exact same degree then putting another title on their diploma ? 
Why are teachers (in any subject, at any level) employed by the church, women, described as ordained ministers as soon as they need to be fired, but women pastors who studied theology are not deemed to be ordained when they are hired?
Then in some places telling them there is no job, while men have burn out with too much churches? It&#039;s not like people are rushing to become pastors.
Why so much sex scandals in the churches because women counsel with men and that simply should not happen. 
Why history of child abuse are covered up because there are no women in position to stop the &quot; I scratch you back you scratch mine&quot; policy? 
Why lies ?
 Why not accept that if there is a vote at the church level this means that it can be voted, therefore it cannot be a sin to go either way, ordination or not ? 
Why impose a world view that would mean closing doors of churches in entire countries were men and women must have the same status to direct the organisation in any capacity as soon as they are employed ?
How can we have ordained elders, and not ordained pastors - women ? This means that is is not a biblical problem. It&#039;s just a matter of who gets paid what and who can get up the ladder.
You are entitle to your point of view.
Those are my questions to the church on that subject. To me THIS IS HYPOCRISY indeed. Missouri is just a continuation of San Antonio.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://adventmessenger.org/why-are-the-delegates-from-the-rebellious-german-churches-speaking-at-this-general-conference-session/comment-page-1/#comment-24359">Tom Magnusson</a>.</p>
<p>Why were there ordained women pastors in the time of Ellen white?<br />
Why are they taking moneys from those women during 4 years doing the exact same degree then putting another title on their diploma ?<br />
Why are teachers (in any subject, at any level) employed by the church, women, described as ordained ministers as soon as they need to be fired, but women pastors who studied theology are not deemed to be ordained when they are hired?<br />
Then in some places telling them there is no job, while men have burn out with too much churches? It&#8217;s not like people are rushing to become pastors.<br />
Why so much sex scandals in the churches because women counsel with men and that simply should not happen.<br />
Why history of child abuse are covered up because there are no women in position to stop the &#8221; I scratch you back you scratch mine&#8221; policy?<br />
Why lies ?<br />
 Why not accept that if there is a vote at the church level this means that it can be voted, therefore it cannot be a sin to go either way, ordination or not ?<br />
Why impose a world view that would mean closing doors of churches in entire countries were men and women must have the same status to direct the organisation in any capacity as soon as they are employed ?<br />
How can we have ordained elders, and not ordained pastors &#8211; women ? This means that is is not a biblical problem. It&#8217;s just a matter of who gets paid what and who can get up the ladder.<br />
You are entitle to your point of view.<br />
Those are my questions to the church on that subject. To me THIS IS HYPOCRISY indeed. Missouri is just a continuation of San Antonio.</p>
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		By: Nikola from Macedonia		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Nikola from Macedonia]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Jun 2022 13:10:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://adventmessenger.org/why-are-the-delegates-from-the-rebellious-german-churches-speaking-at-this-general-conference-session/comment-page-1/#comment-24366&quot;&gt;Martin Altink&lt;/a&gt;.

Oh Lord, have mercy on Brother Martin Altink, since he does not know what he does.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://adventmessenger.org/why-are-the-delegates-from-the-rebellious-german-churches-speaking-at-this-general-conference-session/comment-page-1/#comment-24366">Martin Altink</a>.</p>
<p>Oh Lord, have mercy on Brother Martin Altink, since he does not know what he does.</p>
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		By: shane		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[shane]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Jun 2022 04:38:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[What a bunch of nonsense ! A belief that the decisions of a few people are the will of God ,delicates or not ...It merely shows the extreme apostasy within the church.  Throughout the history of the jewish nation there were more apostate leaders than faithful, and sadly so it is with the church today.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What a bunch of nonsense ! A belief that the decisions of a few people are the will of God ,delicates or not &#8230;It merely shows the extreme apostasy within the church.  Throughout the history of the jewish nation there were more apostate leaders than faithful, and sadly so it is with the church today.</p>
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		By: Ray		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ray]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Jun 2022 22:04:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://adventmessenger.org/why-are-the-delegates-from-the-rebellious-german-churches-speaking-at-this-general-conference-session/comment-page-1/#comment-24254&quot;&gt;Janine Gurdon&lt;/a&gt;.

Seems Canada is participating as well in women&#039;s ordination. I believe the NAD is participating....as well lgtq movement from Dan Jackson Era.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://adventmessenger.org/why-are-the-delegates-from-the-rebellious-german-churches-speaking-at-this-general-conference-session/comment-page-1/#comment-24254">Janine Gurdon</a>.</p>
<p>Seems Canada is participating as well in women&#8217;s ordination. I believe the NAD is participating&#8230;.as well lgtq movement from Dan Jackson Era.</p>
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		By: Lynton Lawson		</title>
		<link>https://adventmessenger.org/why-are-the-delegates-from-the-rebellious-german-churches-speaking-at-this-general-conference-session/comment-page-1/#comment-24378</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lynton Lawson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Jun 2022 20:10:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[These delegates are there because they are not military but church delegates, representing the diversity of a global church. It is nauseating to read the judgmental tone of those calling themselves &quot;Advent Messengers.&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>These delegates are there because they are not military but church delegates, representing the diversity of a global church. It is nauseating to read the judgmental tone of those calling themselves &#8220;Advent Messengers.&#8221;</p>
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		By: Hudiburgh		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Hudiburgh]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Jun 2022 20:09:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://adventmessenger.org/why-are-the-delegates-from-the-rebellious-german-churches-speaking-at-this-general-conference-session/comment-page-1/#comment-24254&quot;&gt;Janine Gurdon&lt;/a&gt;.

Yes, and that&#039;s just a start -- a few at first, and then it spreads.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://adventmessenger.org/why-are-the-delegates-from-the-rebellious-german-churches-speaking-at-this-general-conference-session/comment-page-1/#comment-24254">Janine Gurdon</a>.</p>
<p>Yes, and that&#8217;s just a start &#8212; a few at first, and then it spreads.</p>
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		By: Martin Altink		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Martin Altink]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Jun 2022 17:43:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Oh Lord, have mercy on them, since they don’t know what they do…]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh Lord, have mercy on them, since they don’t know what they do…</p>
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		By: Christian		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Christian]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Jun 2022 15:22:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://adventmessenger.org/why-are-the-delegates-from-the-rebellious-german-churches-speaking-at-this-general-conference-session/comment-page-1/#comment-24359&quot;&gt;Tom Magnusson&lt;/a&gt;.

Yea Julie should understand that.
Women ordination is not ryt,it&#039;s contrary to the plan of Salvation.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://adventmessenger.org/why-are-the-delegates-from-the-rebellious-german-churches-speaking-at-this-general-conference-session/comment-page-1/#comment-24359">Tom Magnusson</a>.</p>
<p>Yea Julie should understand that.<br />
Women ordination is not ryt,it&#8217;s contrary to the plan of Salvation.</p>
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