“When men endanger the work and cause of God by their own wrong course of action, shall they hear no voice of reproof? If the wrongdoer only were concerned, and the work reached no farther than him, he alone should have the words of warning; but when his course of action is doing positive harm to the cause of truth, and souls are imperiled, God requires that the warning be as broad as the injury done” (Selected Messages, Vol. 2, p. 152).
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How is Bill’s rebuke insane, reckless, and unwarranted?
Is Bill and Truth Triumphant without fault?
Is Advent Media Connect without fault?
Is Advent Messenger without fault?
Is Secrets Unsealed Ministry without fault?
Is Clash of Minds without fault?
I can make the same case against you as what you are making against Bill, using the same SOP quotes.
I have been supporters of all these ministries and much more, and I can tell you that they all have stumbled. All of God’s servants from past and present have stumbled. However, our Faith is a battle and a march, and as we do the work of the 3rd Angel, and as we claim to be God’s people, we are to put away pride.
Private or Public/Open Rebuking, Reproving is what we do as SDA. It is one of the mechanisms that God placed in our church so that unity, transparency, and for the purification of our church.
We are to be meek and humble, and that if any reproof come our way, it would be wise to diligently seek to see if this reproof is from God, because God can use anyone or anything to rebuke us. We need to examine ourselves before we focus on others. Let us not be like those in our ranks who continue to reject and ignore reproofs, let’s us come together and examine these reproofs based on the Scriptures and SOP.
When we respond to rebukes like this, we come off as if we don’t make mistakes or even sin:
“If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us. ” 1 John 1:8 KJV
“20 Them that sin rebuke before all, that others also may fear.
21 I charge thee before God, and the Lord Jesus Christ, and the elect angels, that thou observe these things without preferring one before another, doing nothing by partiality.
22 Lay hands suddenly on no man, neither be partaker of other men’s sins: keep thyself pure.
23 Drink no longer water, but use a little wine for thy stomach’s sake and thine often infirmities.
24 Some men’s sins are open beforehand, going before to judgment; and some men they follow after.
25 Likewise also the good works of some are manifest beforehand; and they that are otherwise cannot be hid. ” 1 Timothy 5:20-25 KJV
“Is there not as great need at this time for warnings and reproof as at any period of this earth’s history? And warnings will come, discovering the hidden things of darkness. “All Scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness, that the man of God may be perfect, thoroughly furnished unto all good works.” [2 Timothy 3:16, 17.] There are individuals who require plain words of reproof, and the apostle says, “Them that sin rebuke before all, that others also may fear.” [1 Timothy 5:20.]
There are times when private reproof has no effect. The Lord knows better than human beings the needs of His people. He does not consult man’s imperfect judgment as to how he shall work in bringing reproof to his people. The charge of Paul is, “I charge thee before God and the Lord Jesus Christ, that thou observe these things, without preferring one before another, doing nothing by partiality. Lay hands suddenly on no man, neither be partaker of other men’s sins: keep thyself pure. … Some men’s sins are open beforehand, going before to judgment: and some men they follow after. Likewise also the good works of some are manifest beforehand; and they that are otherwise cannot be hid.”” [Verses 21, 22, 24, 25 13LtMs, Ms 56, 1898, par. 55 – 13LtMs, Ms 56, 1898, par. 56
It’s simple. He made some strong personal statements online not knowing the facts.
Andy Roman is a seventh Day Adventist minister within an independent ministries. He has spoken straight to the powers that be? The General conference has apostatized and that is a given fact. What is apostacy? It’s abandoning the truth once you professed to believe? The S.D.A new organization has abandoned the pillars of faith proffessed by the pioneers.
Bill Hughes hasn’t been SDA for decades.
This whole bruha is a master class in Satan’s “Tit For Tat -Divide and Conquer” curriculum.
To be honest I quit listening to him long ago for 2 reasons: 1) When he says “folk” I found that really annoying. 2) There was always something off to me in his talks/sermons.
Navigating current internal tensions and disagreements within the Seventh-day Adventist Church is a formidable challenge for every member. Appreciation goes to those who, despite trials, remain committed to biblical truth and advocate for accountability in leadership.
The watchmen are implored to foster a renewed spirit of dialogue and reconciliation, recognizing it is never too late to mend divisions and move forward in unity for God’s glory.
Moreover, in this spiritual battle, Satan is a defeated foe!